# The iiandyiiii guide to white supremacists and their enablers/tolerators **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 19, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017 "2019-01-19T01:17:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/41 "2019-01-21T08:29:54Z")
I believe **octo** ’s idea of “equality” is [the one on the left](https://nam.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Equality-Equity-Liberation.jpg)… ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/42 "2019-01-21T10:57:23Z")
…Okay what are those kids doing in the outfield in that last panel? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/43 "2019-01-21T11:49:54Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > …Okay what are those kids doing in the outfield in that last panel? Yeah, the[other version](http://www.theinclusionsolution.me/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Equity-Equality-Graphic-blog.jpg)makes more sense 🙂 . ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/44 "2019-01-21T12:19:12Z")
Like… Pal… Y’gonna get beaned in the head if you’re not careful. 😃 Re: thread: I mean… he’s not wrong? Huey is a huge, stupid douche, no doubt about it, but we have quite a few huge, stupid douches, and the vitriol against him seems a little more vicious than usual. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/45 "2019-01-21T12:42:01Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Oh goodness, you don’t real equality do you? When society’s institutions treat the members of one group quite differently than the members of another group (and have been doing so for 400 years, varying only in degree), there isn’t any ‘real equality.’ Even if racism ceased to exist tomorrow, the residual effects of that 400 years would linger for generations. A little light reading for you: [https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/suspect-citizens/A399F1EEA04CFCFC18D750AC0095AD96#fndtn-information](https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/suspect-citizens/A399F1EEA04CFCFC18D750AC0095AD96#fndtn-information) They analyzed twenty million traffic stops. > [@](#): > > Suspect Citizens offers the most comprehensive look to date at the most common form of police-citizen interactions, the routine traffic stop. Throughout the war on crime, police agencies have used traffic stops to search drivers suspected of carrying contraband. From the beginning, police agencies made it clear that very large numbers of police stops would have to occur before an officer might interdict a significant drug shipment. Unstated in that calculation was that many Americans would be subjected to police investigations so that a small number of high-level offenders might be found. The key element in this strategy, which kept it hidden from widespread public scrutiny, was that middle-class white Americans were largely exempt from its consequences. Tracking these police practices down to the officer level, Suspect Citizens documents the extreme rarity of drug busts and reveals sustained and troubling disparities in how racial groups are treated. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/46 "2019-01-21T12:50:59Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Stick to being a Chronos jr and talk about physics. I’d suggest that you stick to what you’re good at, if your posts had ever given me any clue of what that is. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/47 "2019-01-21T12:53:49Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > I’d suggest that you stick to what you’re good at, if your posts had ever given me any clue of what that is. Given that the answer is “being a troll” I’d suggest he just fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/48 "2019-01-21T13:14:53Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Brazil, politics in Europe and America give you hope then? Of course neo-fascists are on the rise. Of course white supremacists are emboldened. You have plenty of shitty, dangerous, violent compatriots in your effort to hold back the tide. But [stories like this](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/30/girl-scouts-choose-transgender-girls-over-100000-donation/?fbclid=IwAR1PLikljaW65RmG85A1AjVwCdak6mEnG_W-f9TQFKF9iItLn46IVSxAShE&utm_term=.d3da5b158476) give me hope. The fact that young people are overwhelmingly more progressive than the shitty old people running the world gives me hope. Slowly, but exceedingly fine. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/49 "2019-01-21T13:53:56Z")
**Andy** ’s self-abasement is rather painful to stomach sometimes. As far as the knowledge and depth he brings to racial discussions, he is about equal to a 5th grader who has just finished up the Black History Month module. He shows no signs of having any familiarity with American culture of any kind, which makes for some rather dull conversations. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/50 "2019-01-21T14:51:10Z")
> [@WernhamHogg](#): > > Let me guess - “fragile pet classes” are any group that doesn’t have you as a member. Sounds like a “dog whistle” to me. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/51 "2019-01-21T15:22:20Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > **Andy** ’s self-abasement is rather painful to stomach sometimes. > > As far as the knowledge and depth he brings to racial discussions, he is about equal to a 5th grader who has just finished up the Black History Month module. > > He shows no signs of having any familiarity with American culture of any kind, which makes for some rather dull conversations. Perhaps you could educate him by loaning your copy of _A Libertarian Crank’s History of the United States_, if the pages aren’t too badly stuck together. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/52 "2019-01-21T15:27:15Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > **Andy** ’s self-abasement is rather painful to stomach sometimes. > > As far as the knowledge and depth he brings to racial discussions, he is about equal to a 5th grader who has just finished up the Black History Month module. > > He shows no signs of having any familiarity with American culture of any kind, which makes for some rather dull conversations. Too much work to actually engage with what he’s saying, huh? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/53 "2019-01-21T15:30:04Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Oh goodness, you don’t real equality do you? I’ll have you know I’ve be realing equality for years. I even real it twice on Saturdays. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/54 "2019-01-21T15:39:55Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’ll have you know I’ve be realing equality for years. So you’re realing in the years, then. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/55 "2019-01-21T16:35:53Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Too much work to actually engage with what he’s saying, huh? :rolleyes: No. There’s not much there, really. It’s like an SPLC fundraising email without the ask every time he posts. ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/56 "2019-01-21T16:59:59Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I have servants for the Pringle’s openings. Seriously though, why is it so hard to get it through the thick skulls on this forum that double standards aren’t the solution to double standards? It’s almost as if you folks like the backlash against hypocrisy. > > See, having one set of standards and proper definitions deprives the left of an intellectually dishonest linguistic bludgeon. So your house is never clean it because you can’t clean the kitchen and the bathroom at the exact same time? We can’t solve all problems at once, and yes to equalize power differentials based on genitalia we will have to focus on the group that is being fucked over most first. Funny how weak little children like you only care when it is someone else’s turn for some attention. What a fearful little pathetic human you are, who lets your won self-doubt block your duty to do the right thing. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/57 "2019-01-21T17:54:35Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > No. There’s not much there, really. It’s like an SPLC fundraising email without the ask every time he posts. I get their fundraising emails, and they’re quite substantive and informative. Kinda like **iiandyiiii** ’s posts. You want to dis his post, but you’re too lazy to even figure out what your problem with it is, other than it conflicts with what you think. So you throw cheap insults at it, because that’s all you’ve got. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/58 "2019-01-21T17:59:22Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Yeah, the[other version](http://www.theinclusionsolution.me/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Equity-Equality-Graphic-blog.jpg)makes more sense 🙂 . Ok. That made me lol. > [@RTFirefly](#): > > When society’s institutions treat the members of one group quite differently than the members of another group (and have been doing so for 400 years, varying only in degree), there isn’t any ‘real equality.’ Even if racism ceased to exist tomorrow, the residual effects of that 400 years would linger for generations. > > A little light reading for you: [https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/suspect-citizens/A399F1EEA04CFCFC18D750AC0095AD96#fndtn-information](https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/suspect-citizens/A399F1EEA04CFCFC18D750AC0095AD96#fndtn-information) > > They analyzed twenty million traffic stops. I’m not saying don’t help people or don’t root out bias. We all could help with that, I do my part here. I also am not opposed to programs that would disproportionately help minorities if class was used as justification. I’m just not convinced that explicit double standards are helpful for anyone other than the Democratic Party. > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Given that the answer is “being a troll” I’d suggest he just fuck off. ☹ That’s an ugly thing to say. You kiss your inflatable toy with that mouth? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/59 "2019-01-21T17:59:56Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > **Andy** ’s self-abasement is rather painful to stomach sometimes. > > As far as the knowledge and depth he brings to racial discussions, he is about equal to a 5th grader who has just finished up the Black History Month module. > > He shows no signs of having any familiarity with American culture of any kind, which makes for some rather dull conversations. Says the guy who thinks the wrong side won the Civil War. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017/60 "2019-01-21T18:01:34Z")
> [@rat\_avatar](#): > > So your house is never clean it because you can’t clean the kitchen and the bathroom at the exact same time? > > We can’t solve all problems at once, and yes to equalize power differentials based on genitalia we will have to focus on the group that is being fucked over most first. > > Funny how weak little children like you only care when it is someone else’s turn for some attention. What a fearful little pathetic human you are, who lets your won self-doubt block your duty to do the right thing. So what have you actually done other than flap your gums impotently? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iiandyiiii-guide-to-white-supremacists-and-their-enablers-tolerators/828017.md?page=4)