# The imaginary black man strikes again.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 13, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342 "2010-05-13T20:42:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/21 "2010-05-13T23:23:17Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Right. They’d need to get something in return. In this case, the only thing they got in return was confirmation that they should call off the investigation.

This guy was small potatoes. Cutting him loose was the only way they can get to Mr. Big, who planned to shoot himself with a cruise missile and blame it on Zimbabwe.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/22 "2010-05-13T23:54:30Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> Some of my best black friends are imaginary! 😛 (some of my friends are imaginary black?)

Hey, not aimed at you, **Eleanor** , but I have it on good authority that most of the sort of people who say, “Some of my best friends are black [gay/immigrant/etc/]” are usually speaking of imaginary people! 😃

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**Author:** ![kingbighair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@kingbighair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingbighair)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/23 "2010-05-14T01:20:26Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Silly cop. You’re supposed to blame some Puerto Rican guy, of average Puerto Rican height, for stuff like this.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/24 "2010-05-14T01:52:10Z")

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It’s no laughing matter. There is an imaginary black rapist in the south who is so fertile he’s impregnated almost every religious conservative- or daughter of religious conservative parents- who’s ever been recognized while seeking an abortion after protesting at another clinic. He’s never been caught.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/25 "2010-05-14T01:57:42Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> It’s no laughing matter. There is an imaginary black rapist in the south who is so fertile he’s impregnated almost every religious conservative- or daughter of religious conservative parents- who’s ever been recognized while seeking an abortion after protesting at another clinic. He’s never been caught.

And he’s over 200 years old!

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/26 "2010-05-14T02:35:58Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> Hey, not aimed at you, **Eleanor** , but I have it on good authority that most of the sort of people who say, “Some of my best friends are black [gay/immigrant/etc/]” are usually speaking of imaginary people! 😃

Some of my black friends are best imaginary! (I like that one most). 😃😛

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**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/27 "2010-05-14T03:30:06Z")

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LOL i bet this story is gettin short shrift on [Policelink.com](http://Policelink.com) LOL…

I wonder if he was fuckin around with his piece and shot himself… that happened more than one would imagine… boys with our toys…

Lissner… did we meet??🙂

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/28 "2010-05-14T04:03:51Z")

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Usually when I hear ‘immunity’ it refers to criminal charges. But _pension_ immunity? What kind of deal did they give him? Is he immune from being fired, or demoted or otherwise disciplined?

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/29 "2010-05-14T04:17:32Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Yes, because all cops are exactly like the one in the story.

Yeah, it’s unfair. 99% of cops really give the rest a bad name.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/30 "2010-05-14T04:29:36Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> And he’s over 200 years old!

Raping white Christian virgins keeps anybody- regardless of ethnicity- immortal.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/31 "2010-05-14T05:06:44Z")

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This was part of the Philly POlice Department’s salute to the 25th Anniversary of the MOVE bombing that killed 11, including 5 children.

I think I am correct in saying nobody was jailed over that.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/32 "2010-05-14T10:35:59Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Yes, because all cops are exactly like the one in the story.
> 
> Tell me, does _any_ part of your brain scream “fuckwit” back at you when you make these kinds of statements?

If I was saying it in all seriousness, I’d be too much of a fuckwit to know what a fuckwit was.

Shall I stick a smiley at the end just for you, in future?

Fuckwit!

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/33 "2010-05-14T16:04:04Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> If I was saying it in all seriousness, I’d be too much of a fuckwit to know what a fuckwit was.
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> Shall I stick a smiley at the end just for you, in future?
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> Fuckwit!

So I’ve been whooshed AND fuckwitted?:dubious:

WTF that was witty! 😃

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/34 "2010-05-14T16:55:27Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Usually when I hear ‘immunity’ it refers to criminal charges. But _pension_ immunity? What kind of deal did they give him? Is he immune from being fired, or demoted or otherwise disciplined?

My guess would be that the pension plan provides that it can be revoked only for very specific reasons, one of which being a criminal conviction. So, since they decided not to charge him criminally, they have no other operative grounds for revoking the pension.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/35 "2010-05-14T17:40:50Z")

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Taking away somebody’s pension is a bad precedent. If it could be done easily, some employers would do it often. A pension earned is a property right. Perhaps he could be sued civilly for damages for filing a false police report and charged criminally for the same, but apparently the deal for his confession to stop the nonsense search is a contract that prohibits this. Between social security (when he is finally old enough) and $24k per year he might be able to get by.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/36 "2010-05-14T17:51:38Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Taking away somebody’s pension is a bad precedent. If it could be done easily, some employers would do it often.

That’s true, and for that reason any mechanism for taking a pension away would need to be very rigorous.

But it seems to me, especially in cases where the person has the public trust in the way that a police officer does, that a gross violation of that trust, in the line of duty, is a pretty good reason. Perhaps there could be some sort of review committee, comprised both of top brass and representatives from the police union.

Police unions and other police representative organizations have a reputation for standing firmly behind their members, even in cases where many members of the public feel that the cops have done the wrong thing. In this particular case, i think you’ll find that even the unions wouldn’t go to the wall for this guy. While the FOP is not officially a trade union, is does represent police interests, and here’s what one local FOP leader had to say

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> John McNesby, president of the Fraternal Order of Police, Lodge 5, who also had raced to the hospital to meet with Ralston when he was shot last month, expressed disgust.
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> “The community has supported this city’s police officers through so much, every time we lose an officer,” McNesby said. “To have something like this come along that could possibly tear that down is a disgrace.”

From the third story linked in my OP.

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**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/37 "2010-05-14T19:36:26Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Raping white Christian virgins keeps anybody- regardless of ethnicity- immortal.

why am I ALWAYS the last to know!?

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/38 "2010-05-14T19:39:15Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> And he’s over 200 years old!

At least we know he goes by the name of Mandingo.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/39 "2010-05-15T11:28:08Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> So I’ve been whooshed AND fuckwitted?:dubious:
> 
> WTF that was witty! 😃

For some it comes naturally; others have to work at it! 😛

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-imaginary-black-man-strikes-again/539342/40 "2010-05-15T11:33:59Z")

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I wonder if he wears big, bling earrings like Ed Bradley.

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