# The imPEACHment Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 20, 2019, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685 "2019-11-20T02:43:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/41 "2019-11-20T17:01:53Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Have you met Republicans? > > So does Trump now claim that he didn’t know Sondland and that Sondland was a never Trumper? Haha, he was a coffee boy, at best. A million-dollar-donating coffee boy. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/42 "2019-11-20T17:09:34Z")
> [@margin](#): > > Haha, he was a coffee boy, at best. A million-dollar-donating coffee boy. Good one. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/43 "2019-11-20T17:18:04Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Yeah, they’re employing the throw it at a wall and see what sticks approach. They also are arguing that no one has used the word bribery. They seem to think that crimes are not crimes if you don’t use the magic words; it’s not murder unless you say murder during the shooting. They’re fortunate in that their base are so uninformed. This is so striking, because it’s so deeply held. Kavanaugh can’t be a rapist, _he denied it._ Trump isn’t a pussygrabber, he…oh. Wait. Well, um, not \* her. - If a white dude does not proclaim, “I hereby confirm and proclaim that it was my intent and ambition to commit: murder, arson, rape, etc., etc.., and that I did in fact commit murder, arson, rape, (fill in the blanks)”, plus there are pictures, video from all angles with excellent lighting, DNA matches, fingerprints, etc., then you cannot convict the guy. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/44 "2019-11-20T17:30:05Z")
Has anyone else seen the pathetic sharpie note that Trump just read from? Huge letters in black sharpie, filling the page: "“I want nothing. I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. Tell Zellinsky to do the right thing. This is the final word from the Pres. of the U.S.” ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/45 "2019-11-20T17:31:21Z")
> [@margin](#): > > If a white dude does not proclaim, “I hereby confirm and proclaim that it was my intent and ambition to commit: murder, arson, rape, etc., etc…, and that I did in fact commit murder, arson, rape, (fill in the blanks)”, plus there are pictures, video from all angles with excellent lighting, DNA matches, fingerprints, etc., then you cannot convict the guy. “If the glove don’t fit, you must acquit” is much catchier. It has a nice beat, you can dance to it. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/46 "2019-11-20T17:31:53Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > “… This is the final word from the Pres. of the U.S.” God, I fucking hope so. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/47 "2019-11-20T17:35:34Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Have you met Republicans? No, I didn’t go to Gym Jordan’s Ohio State. Also I’m both lactose and Devin Nunes intolerant. Moo. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/48 "2019-11-20T17:36:20Z")
This time next week, Trump’s approval rating at fivethirtyeight will be right where it is today. We are seeing egregious abuse of power and his supporters straight up don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/49 "2019-11-20T17:45:53Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > We are seeing egregious abuse of power and his supporters straight up don’t care. Their lips say they don’t care. But their eyes say, “YES!”. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/50 "2019-11-20T17:48:32Z")
Yeah, maybe don’t care isn’t the right description, they don’t disapprove which is more alarming. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/51 "2019-11-20T17:49:11Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > This time next week, Trump’s approval rating at fivethirtyeight will be right where it is today. We are seeing egregious abuse of power and his supporters straight up don’t care. Sad but true. These are people who think of politics as a team sport. And if your team bribes the ref, or puts noxious substances in the other teams gatorade, or pays someone to kneecap the other quarterback in a parking lot… Well that’s just fine, as long as your team wins. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/52 "2019-11-20T17:50:48Z")
> [@margin](#): > > Haha, he was a coffee boy, at best. A million-dollar-donating coffee boy. Ha ha ha ha! I believe you have nailed it: > [@](#): > > Moments ago, President Trump reacted to Ambassador Gordon Sondland and his testimony, saying, “This is not a man I know well.” ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/53 "2019-11-20T17:57:44Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Sad but true. > > These are people who think of politics as a team sport. And if your team bribes the ref, or puts noxious substances in the other teams gatorade, or pays someone to kneecap the other quarterback in a parking lot… Well that’s just fine, as long as your team wins. I think that their race is their politics and all is fair as long as “they” win. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/54 "2019-11-20T18:02:08Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > But that’s all there is so far. Otherwise? Crickets. Until Fox News tells the resident apologists what to say. They don’t appear to be able to come up with the talking points by themselves. Their strategy this week seems to be a collective “The hearings are reallly boring. The public is realllly bored of the hearings. Why are they wasting their time with this. It’s soooo boring.” Or in other words “nothing to see here! move along! move along!” ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/55 "2019-11-20T18:05:14Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > Their strategy this week seems to be a collective “The hearings are reallly boring. The public is realllly bored of the hearings. Why are they wasting their time with this. It’s soooo boring.” > Or in other words “nothing to see here! move along! move along!” I would say that today, so far, has plenty of “pizazz.” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/56 "2019-11-20T18:12:20Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > Their strategy this week seems to be a collective “The hearings are reallly boring. The public is realllly bored of the hearings. Why are they wasting their time with this. It’s soooo boring.” > Or in other words “nothing to see here! move along! move along!” As I said in the Elections thread: > [@](#): > > Well, looks like Team Trump is pivoting back to “There was no quid pro quo”, also known as “Everyone else is lying under oath, but you should trust me and my people who I refuse to let testify under oath.” ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/57 "2019-11-20T18:13:29Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Has anyone else seen the pathetic sharpie note that Trump just read from? Huge letters in black sharpie, filling the page: > > "“I want nothing. I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. Tell Zellinsky to do the right thing. This is the final word from the Pres. of the U.S.” I thought your post was a joke when I first read it. I assumed you were riffing off of the NOAA hurricane forecasting shenanigans a few months back, but holy shit, it’s for real. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/58 "2019-11-20T18:15:55Z")
Either all of this is funny or none of this is funny anymore. But none of it is a “joke”. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/59 "2019-11-20T18:18:23Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Moments ago, President Trump reacted to Ambassador Gordon Sondland and his testimony, saying, “This is not a man I know well.” You can set a watch by his lies. ---
**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685/60 "2019-11-20T18:23:02Z")
I’m not very well versed in what’s going on but if I understand events correctly, Trump’s pretty well fucked, right? I mean, even if the Senate doesn’t impeach him (which, thanks to #MoscowMitch, it almost certainly won’t) he’s going to prison once he leaves office, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impeachment-pit-thread/843685.md?page=4)