# The Impending Attempt to Oust Speaker McCarthy {10/1/2023}; Patrick McHenry is now Speaker Pro Tempore {2023-10-03}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 1, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958 "2023-10-01T15:58:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/581 "2023-10-12T02:07:48Z")

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Maybe the Democrats can buy his vote…

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/582 "2023-10-12T02:08:36Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> > McHenry will decide to make a go of acting like he’s a real speaker.
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> It seems like he can’t, under House rules.

Rules, schmules.

Did those rules allow him to steal Nancy Pelosi’s office?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/583 "2023-10-12T02:09:13Z")

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Quoting myself for context …

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> > [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > Gonna need a bigger subject line, the way things are going…
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> Excellent point. Bravo.
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> I started this thread as an offshoot of the Impending Shutdown thread.
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> I suppose we could close this chapter right now as part 1 and open a new one with a title like
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> > The Great Ongoing Revolving Speakership of the 118th Congress
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> Which is probably more like what we’re going to experience over the next 15 months.
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> I’m semi-kidding, but mostly not. I’ll bug a mod for their thoughts.

After consultation w the mods, we now have a new thread for the saga of the next real Speaker. Behold:

> [@The Great Ongoing Revolving Speakership of the 118th Congress {Mike Johnson is new speaker as of 2023-10-25}](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress/991432):
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> Continuing the discussion from [https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958) Hi folks - After consulting with the Mods the consensus is to retire the “McCarthy’s ouster” thread I started ten whole days ago. My, what an eternity in politics. Is it a coincidence that this is exactly one Scaramucci? I think not. That thread, along with McCarthy himself, is over. We can pick up here with I…

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/584 "2023-10-12T02:12:52Z")

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Hmmm…the word _clusterfuck_ springs to mind… 🤔

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/585 "2023-10-12T02:19:58Z")

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Dear George;

> [@George Santos](#):
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> _after 10 months and having had 0 contact or outreach from him_

Which would also be a fair indication that you have made no effort to contact him.  
Relationships, George. You both need to work on them.

> [@George Santos](#):
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> _We need a Speaker that leads by including every single member of the team not just some, That’s not leadership!_

You know that old political meme, George?

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> Better to have on the inside pissing out than on the outside pissing in?

Speaker-Designate Scalise seems to prefer you to not be behind him, whichever direction you are contemplating pissing.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/586 "2023-10-12T02:47:48Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Did those rules allow him to steal Nancy Pelosi’s office?

Well, the Speaker can, but since…

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/587 "2023-10-12T03:22:21Z")

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> [@Rep. Santos](#):
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> So l’ve made my decision and after 10 months and having had 0 contact or outreach from him, I’ve come to the conclusion that my VOTE doesn’t matter to him

So he never replied to the dick pics you sent?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/588 "2023-10-12T03:30:03Z")

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Moderating:

> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> So he never replied to the dick pics you sent?

Let’s stop with the hijack now, please.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/589 "2023-10-12T04:44:13Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> Absent an immediate, existential threat to the nation, there is no Republican Speaker candidate Democrats can live with such that they’d engage in either maneuver.

The irony, of course, is that the Republican party itself represents an immediate and existential threat to the nation.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/590 "2023-10-12T10:36:50Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Trump’s touch is the kiss of death now.

🎶 …It’s the kiss of death from Mister Shorrrrrtttfinger… 🎶

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/591 "2023-10-20T14:06:24Z")

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Third vote about to get started

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/m_DfkdoS6QA/maxresdefault.jpg "WATCH: House votes for a new speaker") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_DfkdoS6QA)

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/592 "2023-10-20T18:21:51Z")

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Breaking News: Jim has dropped out, again.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/593 "2023-10-20T18:25:15Z")

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In a secret ballot, apparently, like 112 fellow Republicans told him to hit the bricks.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/594 "2023-10-20T18:40:55Z")

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If this trend continues, maybe they’ll have an election where he gets no votes.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/595 "2023-10-20T18:58:59Z")

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This thread is supposed to be dormant once McCarty was ousted.

The current speakership battle thread is over here. All 842 (and counting) posts of it:

> [@The Great Ongoing Revolving Speakership of the 118th Congress {Mike Johnson is new speaker as of 2023-10-25}](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress/991432):
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> Continuing the discussion from Hi folks - After consulting with the Mods the consensus is to retire the “McCarthy’s ouster” thread I started ten whole days ago. My, what an eternity in politics. Is it a coincidence that this is exactly one Scaramucci? I think not. That thread, along with McCarthy himself, is over. We can pick up here with Is it Scalise or Jordan or ???

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/596 "2023-10-20T19:59:45Z")

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ETA: Never mind, didn’t realize this was the OOOOOLD thread.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-impending-attempt-to-oust-speaker-mccarthy-10-1-2023-patrick-mchenry-is-now-speaker-pro-tempore-2023-10-03/990958/597 "2023-10-20T21:42:47Z")

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