# The Incredibles 2 officially announced **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 18, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027 "2014-03-18T21:46:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/42 "2014-03-19T20:22:58Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Planes was not made by Pixar, it was made by Disney itself. Yes, it was animated by Disney Toon Studios. But it was executive produced and approved by John Lasseter. It’s all Disney (even Pixar) and at this point all Disney animation essentially has John Lasseter’s fingerprints to some degree on it. The problem with Planes was not animation, it was story. That was the problem with Cars 2 as well. So, I think, supports the case that when it comes to sequels while Toy Story 2 and 3 show success, Cars 2 and Planes show that they’re willing to go out with bad scripts for sequels. Monsters University was also surprisingly weak on story, too. I hope not for Incredibles 2. But recent evidence is not reassuring. But hopefully Brad Bird’s attentions and responsibilities aren’t spread as thin as Lasseter’s (who is also heavily involved in theme park stuff too). I wouldn’t care about bad sequels (since I’ll just not watch them), but these things aren’t in addition to work they’d otherwise be doing (at least not the ones on the Pixar label) but in place of other work. They’re not going to make more than two movies a year. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/43 "2014-03-19T20:47:44Z")
Lasseter is on record as saying that _Cars_ is far and away his favorite Pixar movie. The toy tie-ins (and the resulting money) are a big reason _Cars 2_ was made, but Lasseter probably would have greenlighted it regardless. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/44 "2014-03-19T22:40:44Z")
I’m **so** happy! Incredibles 2 is something I had given up hope on! ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/45 "2014-03-20T00:45:06Z")
> [@nevadaexile](#): > > Apples and oranges. > > \*\*\*Toy Story 2 \*\*\*had different characters used a in completely different manner. Wha-hah? The two main characters of Toy Story are Buzz and Woody. The two main characters of Toy Story 2 are Buzz and Woody. I guess they’re arguably used in different ways… but that’s the POINT OF A GOOD SEQUEL! I have no idea what point you’re making here. ---
**Author:** ![InsomniaMama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ad7895/32.png) [@InsomniaMama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InsomniaMama)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/46 "2014-03-20T02:52:25Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > It’s funny because on a whim I literally just watched The Incredibles for the first time in years yesterday. Still enjoy it. And the next day, boom! a sequel is announced. Clearly I have magic powers 🙂 See what you can do for a Titantic 2, ok? My daughter would be so happy. No, I know it makes no sense. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/47 "2014-03-20T03:13:36Z")
It would make a hell of a zombie movie. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/48 "2014-03-20T03:39:23Z")
I don’t think this is a cash grab or anything. Sadly, I can’t find a cite, but The Incredibles was never a huge moneymaker for Pixar. Human-centric movies like Brave\*, Up, and The Incredibles don’t sell many toys, and that’s what drives them more than ticket revenue. I’ve heard there’s a lot of internal pressure at Pixar to create more toy-driven movies, or at least sequels, hence Cars 2 (which is a huge moneymaker due to merchandising). If they’re making a sequel, I suspect it’s an artistic decision, and possibly one that had to be fought tooth and nail to get, not an attempt to cash in on a well-loved property. Of course, that doesn’t mean it will be **good** , but I strongly suspect their heart is in the right place. - Brave might escape this due to the fact that Merida got the Disney Princess treatment, I’m not sure. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/49 "2014-03-20T05:06:55Z")
Brad Bird’s response for years has been that Incredibles will have a sequel when he has a story worth telling. So this is very, very good news. Any hack could just crank out serialized Saturday morning adventures for The Incredibles, but this is going to have subtext and import. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/50 "2014-03-20T09:58:27Z")
> [@InsomniaMama](#): > > See what you can do for a Titantic 2, ok? My daughter would be so happy. [Here you go](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RtPnhtuUfg). 😃 ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/51 "2014-03-20T10:48:20Z")
> [@InsomniaMama](#): > > See what you can do for a Titantic 2, ok? My daughter would be so happy. Titanic’s sister ship the Britannic also sank (oops, spoilers) > **[HMHS Britannic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMHS_Britannic)** > > HMHS Britannic (originally to be the RMS Britannic) (/brɪˈtænɪk/) was the third and final vessel of the White Star Line's Olympic class of steamships and the second White Star ship to bear the name Britannic. She was the youngest sister of the RMS Olympic and the RMS Titanic and was intended to enter service as a transatlantic passenger liner. She was operated as a hospital ship from 1915 until her sinking near the Greek island of Kea, in the Aegean Sea, in November 1916. At the time she was t... And there was a film made > **[Britannic (film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannic_(film))** > > Britannic is a 2000 spy television film directed by Brian Trenchard-Smith. The film depicts a heavily fictionalized version of the sinking of HMHS Britannic in 1916. The film portrays a German agent sabotaging her while she is serving as a hospital ship for the British Army during World War I. It stars Edward Atterton and Amanda Ryan, with Jacqueline Bisset, Ben Daniels, John Rhys-Davies, and Bruce Payne as co-stars. It first premiered on cable network Fox Family and was then broadcast in the ... Brian ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/52 "2014-03-20T12:27:21Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Cautiously optimistic if Brad Bird is on board. Let’s just hope it doesn’t become the Edna Mole show. What, you’re hoping beloved character [Edna Mode](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edna_Mode#Edna_Mode) doesn’t marry the [Underminer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edna_Mode#The_Underminer) and take his last name? ---
**Author:** ![Athabasca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Athabasca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athabasca)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/53 "2014-03-21T14:37:06Z")
> [@nevadaexile](#): > > Not really certain that there’s anywhere to “go” with an Incredibles sequel. While I enjoyed the film and I still enjoy it, it is a self-contained narrative. The end of the film doesn’t lend itself into telling another story. > > Maybe Pixar could have come up with something 2-5 years after the film was in theaters, too much time has passed since the original and any new story would have an uphill climb. I humbly disagree. Bomb Voyage escaped, and the Underminer was about to lay waste to the pavements. IIRC, Bomb Voyage was seen on a sidewalk in Ratatouille. At least I remember catching a glimpse, and gasping out loud in the theatre **That’s Bomb Voyage!** ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/54 "2014-03-21T14:45:24Z")
Maybe one of the reasons this movie is being made, and the reason it was announced alongside Cars 3 was that Pixar/Brad Bird wanted to make an Incredibles 2 movie, Disney balked citing the “no toys sold” thing, and then said “well, we’ll let you do a new Incredibles if you do a new Cars too” Compromise! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/55 "2014-03-21T17:28:25Z")
> [@Athabasca](#): > > I humbly disagree. Bomb Voyage escaped, and the Underminer was about to lay waste to the pavements. The Underminer story got made into a [videogame](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredibles:_Rise_of_the_Underminer). I don’t think there’s much there in terms of a sequel film. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/56 "2014-03-21T18:02:13Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Really, the most disappointing thing about it was the critics showing off their cultural illiteracy by saying it was just a remake of ‘Doc Hollywood’. The concept goes back much further than that…to Brigadoon and points earlier. It’s a classic tale that can be told a thousand ways and likely will. I am very familiar with Brigadoon – it’s one of my top 20 favorite musicals. But I have to say I think there are some key elements in the story that are subverted in “Doc Hollywood.” Brigadoon is isolated by choice – Grady (and Radiator Springs) don’t wish to be isolated. Nothing except interest keeps Jeff and Tommy in Brigadoon; a judge’s sentence keeps Stone in Grady and Lightning McQueen in Radiator Springs. In other words, while some aspects of the stories are similar, the character motivations are virtually opposite as between Brigadoon and the other two. But Cars is, in fact, a virtual repeat of Doc Hollywood. It’s a much closer analogy to place Cars and DH together than it is to tie in Brigadoon. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/57 "2014-03-26T01:49:42Z")
I could take or leave a _Cars 3_, but I’m very, very psyched about an _Incredibles_ sequel. The original is far and away my favorite Pixar movie, and if Brad Bird is back at work, all is right with the world. Can’t wait to see it. Here’s _Variety_’s coverage: [Disney Plans Third 'Cars,' 'The Incredibles 2' Movies](http://variety.com/2014/film/news/disney-plans-third-cars-the-incredibles-2-movies-1201137824/) > [@N9IWP](#): > > Titanic’s sister ship the Britannic also sank (oops, spoilers) > [HMHS Britannic - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMHS_Britannic) > > And there was a film made > [Britannic (film) - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannic_(film)) > > Brian Second link above fixed. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/58 "2014-03-26T02:06:03Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > 😕The first _Cars_ sucked so badly that I never watched the sequel. And now a THIRD? The merchandising for Cars 1 was worth [$10 billion](http://www.filmslatemagazine.com/blog/pixars-cash-grab-with-cars-2-how-much-is-your-soul-worth) which is more than the combined ticket sales of every pixar movie ever made. There’s a very good reason why this is the franchise that’s being extended and not something like Nemo which made only 1/10th the amount of merchandising. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/59 "2014-03-26T06:04:39Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > The merchandising for Cars 1 was worth [$10 billion](http://www.filmslatemagazine.com/blog/pixars-cash-grab-with-cars-2-how-much-is-your-soul-worth) which is more than the combined ticket sales of every pixar movie ever made. There’s a very good reason why this is the franchise that’s being extended and not something like Nemo which made only 1/10th the amount of merchandising. There’s a Nemo sequel in the works. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/60 "2014-03-26T09:09:54Z")
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027/61 "2014-03-27T03:10:27Z")
Just saw these gaming figurines for sale at Office Max: [https://infinity.disney.com/play-sets/the-incredibles-play-set](https://infinity.disney.com/play-sets/the-incredibles-play-set). Although the proportions are off a bit, they looked well-made. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles-2-officially-announced/684027.md?page=4)