# The Incredibles

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 11, 2005, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039 "2005-07-11T18:31:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/1 "2005-07-11T18:31:45Z")

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Having seen the Fantastic Four ads, in which several characters strike poses just like those seen in _the Incredibles_, I’ve been thinking: anybody heard any rumors?  
Animated TV series?  
Comic book?  
\<breathless\>Sequel?\</breathless\>

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/2 "2005-07-11T18:40:48Z")

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Having seen both movies, I daresay _Incredibles_ was better written and more entertaining. Beyond that, I dunno.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/3 "2005-07-11T18:49:43Z")

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Too bad Incredibles followed it by over 40 years, and most people think FF is the ripoff.

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**Author:** ![Kaspar\_Hauser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b3f665/32.png) [@Kaspar\_Hauser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaspar_Hauser)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/4 "2005-07-11T19:18:14Z")

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_FF_ looks like it’s gonna suck, and I was so utterly underwhelmed by _The Incredibles_ that I shut it off after half an hour. Maybe someone can try again in another ten years.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/5 "2005-07-11T19:54:58Z")

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_The Incredibles_ rocked. I dunno why everyone is so busy bashing _Fantasic Four_, it’s a perfectly acceptable comic book movie. Not a Spider-Man or X-Men, but entertaining and fun. It’s certainly no _Daredevil_ or _Punisher_. Yechch.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/6 "2005-07-11T20:01:35Z")

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> [@Kaspar Hauser](#):
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> _FF_ looks like it’s gonna suck, and I was so utterly underwhelmed by _The Incredibles_ that I shut it off after half an hour.

:eek:

HEATHEN!

😉

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/7 "2005-07-11T20:15:29Z")

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> [@Kaspar Hauser](#):
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> _FF_ looks like it’s gonna suck, and I was so utterly underwhelmed by _The Incredibles_ that I shut it off after half an hour. Maybe someone can try again in another ten years.

Are you sure you mean the Pixar Incredibles?  
I’m shocked. I found it better than any Super Hero movie I’ve ever seen. I’m 38 and I loved it. My kids were 7 & 5 and they loved it. My Wife even loved it.

My niece was 22 and she saw it twice with her Boyfriend. Everyone I spoke to at least liked it.

My friends that wish they were “Comic Book Guy” even thought it was fun & great.

As to the OP: there have been at least 2 crappy cartoon versions of the Fantastic 4 from the 70’s and I think the early 90’s.

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**Author:** ![Kaspar\_Hauser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b3f665/32.png) [@Kaspar\_Hauser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaspar_Hauser)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/8 "2005-07-11T20:44:52Z")

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I really, really love cartoons but that 3D shit grates on my nerves. Cutesy, lazy pop culture references, and, as usual, the voice acting just seems really off to me. Too naturalistic, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/9 "2005-07-11T20:48:38Z")

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> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#):
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> Having seen the Fantastic Four ads, in which several characters strike poses just like those seen in _the Incredibles_

That’s pretty ironic (“Is that Vironic???”), considering that they modeled the Incredibles after the FF in the first place…

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/10 "2005-07-11T20:52:29Z")

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> [@Kaspar Hauser](#):
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> I really, really love cartoons but that 3D shit grates on my nerves. Cutesy, lazy pop culture references, and, as usual, the voice acting just seems really off to me.

You apparently have confused _The Incredibles_ with Dreamworks’ various CGI efforts. 😉 Finding a pop-culture reference in a Pixar movie is like finding Michael Moore in the Bush White House.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/11 "2005-07-11T20:55:31Z")

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Yeah, no pop culture references to be found in The Incredibles. Heck, the thing was basically set in the late '60s; there couldn’t possibly be any.

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**Author:** ![Kaspar\_Hauser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b3f665/32.png) [@Kaspar\_Hauser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaspar_Hauser)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/12 "2005-07-11T21:00:14Z")

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Sorry, in my mind I do tend to lump them all together. But nonetheless _The Incredibles_ really bored the pee-pee out of me. I never made it through _Finding Nemo_ either.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/13 "2005-07-11T21:02:33Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> _The Incredibles_ rocked. I dunno why everyone is so busy bashing _Fantasic Four_, it’s a perfectly acceptable comic book movie. Not a Spider-Man or X-Men, but entertaining and fun. It’s certainly no _Daredevil_ or _Punisher_. Yechch.

Probably because they have Spiderman, X-Men, etc. to compare it too.

I like Ramen. Yaknow, those sodium-laden noodle bricks you dump in a pot of boiling water to make something kinda like food? Now, if I have lunch at the local Mongolian Barbecue, that Ramen isn’t gonna look too good. Even if it IS a far cry better than, say, cup-o-noodles.

I still need to watch DareDevil. The first half hour of it that I saw was pretty darned amusing.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/14 "2005-07-11T22:02:10Z")

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> [@Raguleader](#):
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> I still need to watch DareDevil. The first half hour of it that I saw was pretty darned amusing.

Daredevil is 10% Genius 90% Shit.

Did you make it to the greatest scene ever in a super hero movie? And I say that witha completely straight face.  
After a night of super heroing Daredevil comes home- Takes off his costume and we see that his body is scarred worse than Rambo’s in First Blood- He gets in the shower and removes a tooth that has been knocked loose during the nights fight- He gets out of the shower and opens a medicine cabinet which is full of pain killers. He downs a handful of them- As he crawls into his sensory deprivation chamber he hears the sounds of the city including a woman scream for help. He sighs, looks spiritually drained and closes the lid of the chamber.  
Now that’s a great scene- Now add that they’ve established that Matt Murdock has been Daredevil for roughly ONE year… and you’ve got the greatest scene ever in a super hero movie. Being a superhero would suck.

Rest of the movie is shitburgers.  
Incredibles is pretty good.

Fantastic Four was decent.

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/15 "2005-07-11T22:03:02Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> You apparently have confused _The Incredibles_ with Dreamworks’ various CGI efforts. 😉 Finding a pop-culture reference in a Pixar movie is like finding Michael Moore in the Bush White House.

[No pop-culture references at all, nosiree.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317705/trivia)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/16 "2005-07-11T22:19:19Z")

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> [@lno](#):
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> [No pop-culture references at all, nosiree.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317705/trivia)

Well, fair enough, but

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> During the police chase at the beginning of the movie, the license plate for the squad car reads KR 54. As in Car 54 from the old television series “Car 54, Where Are You?”

is a far cry from a Matrix-style freeze-frame-and-spin-in-mid-jump-kick gag like you get from _Shrek_ and the other lesser lights of CGI movies.

That said, “I don’t like CGI movies” strikes me as similar to “I don’t like black and white movies.” It seems sadly self-limiting to judge a work based on the medium, and not the content. But, to each his own, and all that.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/17 "2005-07-11T23:01:49Z")

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Yes the vast majority of those “references” are pretty obscure or oblique. Now if the cahracter voiced by Wallace Shawn had at some point said “Inconcievable!”… now that’s a pop culture reference.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/18 "2005-07-11T23:15:53Z")

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> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#):
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> Comic book?

There was an Incredibles comic. 4 issue mini, IIRC. I’ve not read it…should look into getting ahold of it…

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/19 "2005-07-12T02:32:00Z")

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> [@Push You Down](#):
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> Yes the vast majority of those “references” are pretty obscure or oblique. Now if the cahracter voiced by Wallace Shawn had at some point said “Inconcievable!”… now that’s a pop culture reference.

And I was expecting him to say it too.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-incredibles/312039/20 "2005-07-12T19:53:10Z")

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I _still_ wish Mr. Humpt had snuck an “inconceivable!” into his rant. 😉

And when was _Car 54, Where Are You?_ even **remotely** related to “pop culture”? 😃

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