# The Iraq war is distracting terrorists and making the US safer **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 1, 2004, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iraq-war-is-distracting-terrorists-and-making-the-us-safer/222146 "2004-01-01T18:37:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iraq-war-is-distracting-terrorists-and-making-the-us-safer/222146/81 "2004-01-10T00:12:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jojo \* > oh ok, I thought it was funny. I’ll just bet you did. > [@](#): > > As regards tolerance, well, we have to live with these religions but I don’t have to like it. I feel the same way about every religion on Earth. Say… what’s _your_ faith? > [@](#): > > By pointing out the deficiencies in that ideological system I hope that I can encourage some of them to rethink their positions. A futile hope, I know, but it gives me something to do. The problem is that “Islam” is not a single monolithic religion, just as Judiasm and Christianity and Shinto and Buddhism aren’t all one-faith tricks. Saying “Islam is about X” omits the fact that _some_ branches of Islam support that, and some don’t. Your argument is as flimsy as saying, “all Christians do whatever the Pope tells them to,” which would be a surprise to all the Baptists and Methodists and Latter-Day Saints out there, for instance. > [@](#): > > I think that an ideology that [can sentence a 16 year old girl to 100 lashes because she’s pregnant](http://www.amnesty.org.uk/deliver/document/15053) could learn a thing or two about tolerance and respect itself. How about a religion that says it’s okay to kill doctors just because they were performing legal abortions? ---
**Author:** ![Stoneburg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Stoneburg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoneburg)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iraq-war-is-distracting-terrorists-and-making-the-us-safer/222146/82 "2004-01-10T01:57:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jojo \* > oh ok, I thought it was funny. Nevermind. Well it wasn’t, and I doubt even you thought so. > [@](#): > > As regards tolerance, well, we have to live with these religions but I don’t have to like it. Consider me, who has to live with both this religion **and** yours, and like neither. > [@](#): > > I don’t really understand how I was attacking Aldebaran personally though. You “don’t understand” how "\*You know what, Aldebaran, I’ve got a proposition for you. How about you stick your dhimmi status, your jezyah humiliation tax and your “peace on our terms” up your fat muzlim A-hole? - can be considered a personal attack? > [@](#): > > The problem with tolerance and respect is that everybody is so damn tolerant and respectful and so afraid of upsetting anybody that nobody ever says anything. Yes! That is the big problem! The problem is that **everyone is just too tolerant and respectful**! If you’re tolerant and respectful, the terrorists have already won! > [@](#): > > Islam is directly related to this thread because it’s the driving force of al Qaida who are the terrorists in question. Baader Meinhof were marxist so marxism is relevant when talking about them, al Q are islamic so islam is relevant. The KKK is Christian. Nuff said. > [@](#): > > I think that an ideology that can sentence a 16 year old girl to 100 lashes because she’s pregnant could learn a thing or two about tolerance and respect itself. Yes… because judaism and christianity is extremely tolerant. The bible advocating harsh penalties on severe offenses such as planting crops the wrong way or touching dead pigs. Get a grip. Christians have killed adulterers as well as old ladies under the cover of christianity. Islam is no worse then either of them. > [@](#): > > But hey, maybe islam is great and it’s me that’s weird. Maybe Islam is pretty simmilar to the religions it is **based** on and you’re not weird at all, only ignorant and intolerant. I wish that would be considered weird, but I’m afraid you’re in the majority. ---
**Author:** ![Jojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecd19e/32.png) [@Jojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jojo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iraq-war-is-distracting-terrorists-and-making-the-us-safer/222146/83 "2004-01-10T03:00:29Z")
> [@](#): > > Consider me, who has to live with both this religion and yours, and like neither. I don’t have a religion. I think it’s unwise to hitch your wagon to any one belief system. It’s best to make things up as we go along - doing whatever seems best. Following the natural evolution of ideas, that’s how democracy evolved. > [@](#): > > You “don’t understand” how "You know what, Aldebaran, I’ve got a proposition for you. How about you stick your dhimmi status, your jezyah humiliation tax and your “peace on our terms” up your fat muzlim A-hole? > can be considered a personal attack? No. Actually, as sentences go I thought it scanned quite well. I was quite pleased with it. Obviously the “fat” bit was gratuitous. Since I have never seen Aldebaran’s A-hole I have no idea as to it’s dimensions but just saying “up your muzlim A-hole” didn’t seem to scan as well so I had to add something. Perhaps Aldebaran could photocopy a picture of his a-hole and fax it to us all so that we all know what we are talking about? Aldebaran? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iraq-war-is-distracting-terrorists-and-making-the-us-safer/222146/84 "2004-01-10T03:10:40Z")
_digdigdigdigdigdigdigdigdig_ Keep on digging, **Jojo**. Maybe as a reward someone will show you the fearsome egress… ---
**Author:** ![Jojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecd19e/32.png) [@Jojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jojo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iraq-war-is-distracting-terrorists-and-making-the-us-safer/222146/85 "2004-01-10T04:08:58Z")
okay, okay. Forget I mentioned anyone’s damn a-hole. Thread locked. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-iraq-war-is-distracting-terrorists-and-making-the-us-safer/222146.md?page=4)