# The issue with moving non-Pit threads to the Pit **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 11, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040 "2019-09-11T14:19:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/21 "2019-09-11T19:32:33Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > I see - the OP put a self-described “rant” into GD; naturally it got moved to the Pit. Honestly, any experienced poster contributing to that thread should have known it was only a matter of time until it was moved. > > Beyond that, I don’t think it is persuasive regarding Velocity’s issue. True, he posted early in the thread, while it was still in GD, and then got singled out for some Pit-style commentary after the thread was moved. That is why I generally tend to drop threads once they get bounced to the Pit. I don’t care really – you can call me anything you wish. But that style of writing just isn’t my thing and it would be like trying to respond in a foreign language. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/22 "2019-09-11T19:53:09Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > As **Miller** pointed out previously, these “angry Pit denizens” can, at any time, “take advantage and insult you”. I’ll also point out that “angry Pit denizens” are the same people who are in the other fora. If you post in threads with the thought “I can say this because they’re not allowed to attack me here” you’re going about this whole discussion thing the wrong way. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/23 "2019-09-11T20:07:22Z")
Some people just seem to need their safe spaces, where their aren’t subject to the derision they deserve. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/24 "2019-09-11T21:31:17Z")
nvm ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/25 "2019-09-11T21:31:57Z")
When the OP of a thread says “This is a rant” (as the thread in question did), an experienced poster should consider it likely that it may be moved to our forum for rants, just as they might think that a thread started in GQ that asks “What’s your opinion?” just might get moved to IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/26 "2019-09-11T21:44:47Z")
So if a thread was titled “A recipe for disaster”, it would be moved to…? ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/27 "2019-09-11T22:02:44Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So if a thread was titled “A recipe for disaster”, it would be moved to…? Since the full name of the forum is the **BBQ** Pit, I think contentious recipes go there 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/28 "2019-09-11T22:04:34Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > Since the full name of the forum is the **BBQ** Pit, I think contentious recipes go there 🙂 But disastrous recipes should probably go in Cafe Society. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/29 "2019-09-11T22:06:42Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > Since the full name of the forum is the **BBQ** Pit, I think contentious recipes go there 🙂 🙂 Troll house cookies, too, if I remember correctly. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/30 "2019-09-11T22:30:49Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > Mostly because if someone starts a thread, it indicates they want to discuss something. Closing the thread and requiring someone to go through extra hoops for the simple reason they posted in the wrong forum seems to add unnecessary hurdles to discussion. > > This is compounded because we can move threads quite easily. And for the most part, this works. It’s always indicated when this happens so readers are aware. It seems that having your name present in a thread that got moved bothers you, but I don’t see that as a significant enough issue to change the way we direct traffic. It’s not just me, so far no one here has agreed they’d want their thread moved to the PIT. Perhaps, listen to your customers? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/31 "2019-09-11T22:37:43Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > I’ll also point out that “angry Pit denizens” are the same people who are in the other fora. > > If you post in threads with the thought “I can say this because they’re not allowed to attack me here” you’re going about this whole discussion thing the wrong way. To some extent. If I post in threads because I want some meaningful dialogue and perhaps even thoughtful responses- instead of childish insults, I hope this is the right place. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/32 "2019-09-11T22:45:11Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > It’s not just me, so far no one here has agreed they’d want their thread moved to the PIT. > > Perhaps, listen to your customers? Based on a [previous thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20966019) on the topic, [as well as a poll](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=855059), and the judgment of the moderation team, I’m comfortable with our current approach. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/33 "2019-09-11T23:28:41Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > It’s not just me, so far no one here has agreed they’d want their thread moved to the PIT. > > Perhaps, listen to your customers? I would. Immediately if not sooner. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/34 "2019-09-12T00:53:54Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > As **Miller** pointed out previously, these “angry Pit denizens” can, at any time, “take advantage and insult you”. But that falls into the realm of the old adage about the tree falling in the forest with no one present. > [@Miller](#): > > Which is not a remotely meaningful distinction. Sure it is, assuming that moving the thread does not cancel someone’s subscription to it. What if they never voluntarily go to the Pit but they follow their notification to what they think is a non-Pit thread and open it only to find a bunch of vitriolic and vulgar insults hurled at them? I also think it’s asking a lot to expect someone to just abandon a thread they may have created or got heavily involved in some kind of debate within it. That’s not the same dynamic as when a brand new thread is created. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/35 "2019-09-12T02:32:23Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I also think it’s asking a lot to expect someone to just abandon a thread they may have created or got heavily involved in some kind of debate within it. That’s not the same dynamic as when a brand new thread is created. Do we have an example of a thread that was moved after a long and serious debate rather than being posted as a rant and moved when a Mod could get there? I am not suggesting it has never happened; I would just like to see an example instead of the hypotheticals being discussed. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/36 "2019-09-12T02:46:28Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > Based on a [previous thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20966019) on the topic, [as well as a poll](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=855059), and the judgment of the moderation team, I’m comfortable with our current approach. Ok, that is a solid poll. But how many of those people wanted THEIR thread moved to the Pit? I mean, if they wanted it there, they could put it there or if a mistake, just ask a Mod to move it, right? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/37 "2019-09-12T09:09:47Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Do we have an example of a thread that was moved after a long and serious debate rather than being posted as a rant and moved when a Mod could get there? I am not suggesting it has never happened; I would just like to see an example instead of the hypotheticals being discussed. This. Without an example or two, it’s hard for this discussion to get beyond handwaving. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/38 "2019-09-12T10:10:39Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > What if they never voluntarily go to the Pit but they follow their notification to what they think is a non-Pit thread and open it only to find a bunch of vitriolic and vulgar insults hurled at them? This is why I never post anywhere without a set of [these bad boys.](https://smile.amazon.com/BABEYOND-Fashion-Necklace-Flapper-Cluster/dp/B01F34Z9J4/ref=sr_1_32?keywords=string+of+pearls&qid=1568282423&sr=8-32) A sturdy set of clutching pearls is a must for the forum reader, the set I linked to is good for most insults and blasphemes. However, when you get into hardcore vulgarity like the F word a proper fainting couch is in order. Take it from me, don’t go with IKEA for your fainting couch needs, the bolted together joints just can’t take the pounding of repeated swoons. I will also suggest if the only thing preventing vitriol and vulgar insults coming your way is the forum you choose to post in, you maybe need to think about what sort of persona you allow to come through your posts. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/39 "2019-09-12T11:37:07Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Ok, that is a solid poll. But how many of those people wanted THEIR thread moved to the Pit? I mean, if they wanted it there, they could put it there or if a mistake, just ask a Mod to move it, right? The logical error is that people own/control the threads they create. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040/40 "2019-09-12T11:52:00Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > But that falls into the realm of the old adage about the tree falling in the forest with no one present. [There ya go.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881633) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-issue-with-moving-non-pit-threads-to-the-pit/840040.md?page=3)