# The James Bond Film Festival. Part 2: From Russia with Love **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 5, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-james-bond-film-festival-part-2-from-russia-with-love/186321 "2003-07-05T00:49:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-james-bond-film-festival-part-2-from-russia-with-love/186321/21 "2003-07-09T13:31:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dr. Rieux \* > \*\*Didn’t Grant explain that he knew the passwords because SPECTRE had kidnapped a British agent in Japan and “sweated” their passwords out of him–or was that just in the book? \*\* The details of this were in the book. “Red wine with fish, well that should have told me something.” ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-james-bond-film-festival-part-2-from-russia-with-love/186321/22 "2003-07-09T14:22:05Z")
One of my favorite moments in the film is the last time we see Kerim Bey alive. They are subduing a bad guy. All they do is pull his suit jacket down around his arms, and stuff a hankie in his mouth. That top button on his jacket must have been sewed on awfully tight. Of course, he gets loose and kills Kerim Bey, so maybe not. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-james-bond-film-festival-part-2-from-russia-with-love/186321/23 "2003-07-09T16:45:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Shodan \* > \*\*They are subduing a bad guy. All they do is pull his suit jacket down around his arms, and stuff a hankie in his mouth. > > That top button on his jacket must have been sewed on awfully tight. > > Of course, he gets loose and kills Kerim Bey, so maybe not. > > Regards, > Shodan \*\* Actually, it’s Grant that kills them both. Kerim would never let a man he’d captured get the drop on him. One of my other favorite lines is from this scene… Kerim is talking to the man all tied up and gagged: “I have led a particularly fascinating life, would you like to hear about it?” Gagged man says nothing, “You would?” I have this idea that Kerim proceeded to talk his ear off. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-james-bond-film-festival-part-2-from-russia-with-love/186321/24 "2003-07-09T19:22:18Z")
Is it really Grant who kills them? Maybe I am remembering the book, where they kill each other. Still one of my favorite Bond films. Shaw is so eee-vil as Grant. And Lotte Lenya as Rosa Klebb. Exactly right. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![TigoleBitties](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cab0a1/32.png) [@TigoleBitties](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TigoleBitties)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-james-bond-film-festival-part-2-from-russia-with-love/186321/25 "2003-07-09T19:56:42Z")
I have to say it was of my fave ‘non formula’ Bonds but it definitely ‘feels out’ the classic Bond genere better than Dr. No. Connery is more relaxed in the role, you got SPECTRE given some more life with their wickedness shown to the hilt (ah the killing of henchmen…its almost a sport at Spectre), the seemingly unstoppable Bond killer from the ultimate training camp, our beloved Desmond Llewellyn(sp?) makes his first appearance as Q, and more gadgeting but not grossly overstated (ie no fake alligators). Shaw was wickedly good as Grant playing both protector and killer and setting the standard for “Bond killer” - for which he quickly lost the throne to Oddjob in ‘Goldfinger’ imho. And how about Grant busting out that British accent to throw Bond off after being silent the entire movie? Boomeranged quite nicely FRWL has what I believe to be one of the best close quarter fight scenes I have seen between Connery and Shaw in the train. They really looked like they were trying their best to beat the hell out of each other and fought a little bit more realistically (cheap shots, using the surroundings). A great addition to the Bond Library. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-james-bond-film-festival-part-2-from-russia-with-love/186321/26 "2003-07-09T21:53:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TigoleBitties \* > \*\*FRWL has what I believe to be one of the best close quarter fight scenes I have seen between Connery and Shaw in the train. They really looked like they were trying their best to beat the hell out of each other and fought a little bit more realistically (cheap shots, using the surroundings). > > A great addition to the Bond Library. \*\* I agree, as an amature martial arts efficionado I put it to the masses that this is one of the most realistic fight scenes in Hollywood history. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-james-bond-film-festival-part-2-from-russia-with-love/186321.md?page=1)