# The "Jar-Jar-Binks" of Star Trek?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 21, 2002, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jar-jar-binks-of-star-trek/104863 "2002-04-21T21:43:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jar-jar-binks-of-star-trek/104863/41 "2002-04-22T20:26:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\*Wesley. > Cheer up. It is a little known fact that the Traveler was an inter-dimension traveling Hannibal Lecter. > ^:)^ \*\* I thought he was an inter-dimention traveling Pedophile! **The Traveler** : Wesley, come here for your next lesson! **Wesley** : Why is it so dark in here? And do i have to wear this leather suit and the whip cre-EEEAAAAMMM? ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jar-jar-binks-of-star-trek/104863/42 "2002-04-22T20:29:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Little Bird \* > \*\*Kess. Kess bad. > \*\* I like Kes. She had an undeniable sweetness about her. I’m tempted to mention someone from _Star Trek : Andromeda_, but none of them are really annoying. In fact, I’d say that Seamus Harper is Wesley Crusher done right. [sub]And yes, I do know that it’s not really a Star Trek series.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![burundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ec8ea/32.png) [@burundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burundi)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jar-jar-binks-of-star-trek/104863/43 "2002-04-22T22:35:17Z")
Can I nominate the entire crew of Voyager? Every one of them bugged the bejeezus out of me. I’m also really not fond of Deanna Troi, but I wouldn’t put her on Jar-Jar’s level. ---
**Author:** ![TheeGrumpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheeGrumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheeGrumpy)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jar-jar-binks-of-star-trek/104863/44 "2002-04-23T04:08:06Z")
Anyone who didn’t immediatlely think of DS9’s **Rom** for this topic has obviously forgotten how gratingly obnoxious the Jar Jar character was. Because Rom was 10 times as bad. I pity Max Grodenchik. I pity anyone whom I loathe so deeply and persistently. (Luckily, I don’t loathe Max, only the character he was punished with, er, cast as.) The final episodes of DS9 are kind of a blur to me but… Didn’t Rom end up being the new Nagus? Nice to see Behr & Beimler were aware that the character was nothing but a joke. The only good thing I can say about Rom: he married Leeta, thus minimizing the number of scenes with each character, since they were more likely to be in the same scene together. More time for Grumpy to leave the room. ---
**Author:** ![JubilationTCornpone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@JubilationTCornpone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JubilationTCornpone)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jar-jar-binks-of-star-trek/104863/45 "2002-04-23T04:12:20Z")
I’ll admit that Rom could be cloyingly annoying… but he had his charms. I found Leeta to be a needless distraction, though. ---
**Author:** ![MrVisible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@MrVisible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrVisible)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jar-jar-binks-of-star-trek/104863/46 "2002-04-23T04:38:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lurkernomore \* > \*\*Weasley. I don’t want to see him in any movies, unless it is in crosshairs - then shot down. > \*\* The movie you’re looking for, then is [Toy Soldiers](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0103112), where you get to see Wesley machine-gunned by terrorists. Very satisfying. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jar-jar-binks-of-star-trek/104863/47 "2002-04-23T08:00:23Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by RickJay \* > \*\* 2. Wesley’s basic purpose, having a juvenile element on the show, was better accomplished through Worf’s son, Alexander._\* Oh crap, I had completely forgotten about _THAT_ annoying little troll. Worf should have beaten him with the blunt end of a Bat`leth until he resembled an under-cooked blood pie. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jar-jar-binks-of-star-trek/104863/48 "2002-04-23T08:21:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ArchiveGuy \* > \*\*The latest news from DarkHorizons says that the luscious Ashley Judd will return in a cameo in the next ST movie as Wesley’s _Wife!_ **HE IS NOT WORTHY!!!** > > [sub](another vote for Wesley)[/sub] \*\* So, is she going to reprise her one-shot TNG role as Robin Lefler, or is she just going to be some woman he met somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jar-jar-binks-of-star-trek/104863/49 "2002-04-23T12:40:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TheeGrumpy \* > \*\*Luckily, I don’t loathe Max, only the character he was punished with, er, cast as. \*\* I’m sure he sleeps better at night knowing that. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jar-jar-binks-of-star-trek/104863/50 "2002-04-23T22:29:17Z")
> [@](#): > > While Q was a pain in the ass to the other characters, Q himself was a very interesting character He might have been, had he had _any character at all_. I mean, how much development can you really do with an omnipotent galactic jerk? Exactly none. He served no purpose as a character, and did nothing good for any of the plots. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jar-jar-binks-of-star-trek/104863/51 "2002-04-24T02:33:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chronos \* > \*\* did nothing good for any of the plots. \*\* I rather enjoyed his pointing out that Worf had just discovered opposable thumbs. Whether a plot device in discovering the Borg, the antagonist in Journey to Farpoint or the protagonist in the episode where one of the Q wanted to die-that might have been Voyager-I thought him a very interesting character. Even the last appearance where Delancey admitted the character was used up was good. Just seeing Delancy deliver the lines “Oh, I wish you could see your faces…oh, but wait, you can!” \ mirrors was better than most stuff on the wasteland of TV. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jar-jar-binks-of-star-trek/104863.md?page=2)