# The Jeb! 2016 Epitaph **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 30, 2015, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166 "2015-10-30T12:10:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/81 "2015-11-03T00:26:39Z")
Perhaps because in the Bush clan, loyalty trumps legality? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/82 "2015-11-03T00:37:59Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Ewww. Jeb says in an interview Sunday that he’d kill for his father and go to prison for him. Super creepy. Nothing says “I want to be the head of the government” like “I’d commit felony murder if I felt like my dad wanted me to.” > [@Gyrate](#): > > I’m amused by Jeb!'s new slogan “JEB CAN FIX IT”. Apparently Jeb! is trying to sink his own campaign. Maybe it’s the only way he can get out without upsetting Dad and the family. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/83 "2015-11-03T00:46:06Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > No kidding. That answer is way out of left field. Not sure what it had to do with how much he loves his dad or why he thought his willingness to kill for him would be a smart thing to admit. Like I said, flailing. He has no clue how to respond to questions so he reaches in his bag of assorted talking points and spurts one out, hoping it will resonate. Unfortunately for Bush, he spurted out the wrong one. What a doofus. The above stated, I still cling to the belief that he will somehow be the nominee. I know, I know. Crazy. ---
**Author:** ![John\_D\_Adamo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@John\_D\_Adamo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_D_Adamo)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/84 "2015-11-03T01:03:56Z")
Iowa’s going Carson, NH is going Trump, SC is probably going Trump as well. Rubio HAS to win or do very well in Florida but he’s the most likely of the sane candidates to make it the whole way. I think Jeb is done ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/85 "2015-11-03T12:49:05Z")
The votes are still a few months away. Carson has plenty of time to implode, as does Trump. What I sense is that the sane faction is going to coalesce around Rubio and the insane faction is going to be split between Trump and Carson. I’m not seeing a path for Jeb but if Rubio missteps then Jeb is back in business. The others like Cruz, Paul, Fiorina, etc. are non-factors. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/86 "2015-11-03T14:01:25Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > The votes are still a few months away. Carson has plenty of time to implode, as does Trump. What I sense is that the sane faction is going to coalesce around Rubio and the insane faction is going to be split between Trump and Carson. I’m not seeing a path for Jeb but if Rubio missteps then Jeb is back in business. The others like Cruz, Paul, Fiorina, etc. are non-factors. Tend to agree with you, but if Trump and Carson implode (which I think is likely), those voters are going somewhere, and I think Cruz is trying his damndest to position himself to be that alternative. He’s smart, ruthless, and (IMHO) amoral when it comes to elections and that does worry me a bit. But like **Onomatopoeia** , I still can’t help that once the smoke clears we’ll get Jeb Bush…crazy, but we’ll see where we’re at come April Fool’s day. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/87 "2015-11-03T20:04:41Z")
Both George Bush-41 and George Bush-43 were rather charismatic, I thought. I find Jeb! just the opposite, perhaps the dullest of all the candidates. Is it just me? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/88 "2015-11-03T20:25:42Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > Like I said, flailing. He has no clue how to respond to questions so he reaches in his bag of assorted talking points and spurts one out, hoping it will resonate. Unfortunately for Bush, he spurted out the wrong one. You think “I would kill for my dad” is a talking point he accidentally selected? That’s a little strange. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/89 "2015-11-03T20:27:26Z")
Oh dear - does he have the same complex as Dubya, needing to prove his manliness to his war-hero father? ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/90 "2015-11-03T23:09:46Z")
can’t even get “[jebcanfixit.com](http://jebcanfixit.com)” right. Jeb doesn’t really wanna be prez, I’m more convinced. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/91 "2015-11-03T23:15:51Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > can’t even get “[jebcanfixit.com](http://jebcanfixit.com)” right. Jeb doesn’t really wanna be prez, I’m more convinced. Someone on another board (see footnote) said that “Jeb Can Fix It” sounds like a character from the movie “Wreck-It Ralph”, and freelance journalist and occasional Ebola survivor Ashoka Mukpo said on Twitter that this sounds like an A&E reality show about people who fix hovercraft used by Florida alligator hunters. 😛 Footnote: Some of us on that other board refer to Jeb as “Juan Arbustos”, which is “John Bush” in Spanish. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/92 "2015-11-03T23:42:38Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > You think “I would kill for my dad” is a talking point he accidentally selected? That’s a little strange. I think he reached for something… anything that would show decisiveness and strength, even if it is a non sequitur. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/93 "2015-11-04T15:49:39Z")
[Bush plummets in new national poll.](http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/quinnipiac-poll-jeb-bush-clinton-trump-215493) Support now at 4%, down from 10% in September. Also, net favorability is at -33. Which means its extremely unlikely he’ll be able to pick up new supporters from other candidates’ columns. Dude is toast. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/94 "2015-11-04T15:50:52Z")
He’s going to have trouble qualifying for the next _debate_. If they have one. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/95 "2015-11-04T16:03:30Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > Someone on another board (see footnote) said that “Jeb Can Fix It” sounds like a character from the movie “Wreck-It Ralph”, and freelance journalist and occasional Ebola survivor Ashoka Mukpo said on Twitter that this sounds like an A&E reality show about people who fix hovercraft used by Florida alligator hunters. > > 😛 > > Footnote: Some of us on that other board refer to Jeb as “Juan Arbustos”, which is “John Bush” in Spanish. That was me. same Board, different forum. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831&page=504](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831&page=504) ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166/96 "2015-11-04T18:57:59Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > That was me. same Board, different forum. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831&page=504](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831&page=504) That too. This is an entirely different website. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeb-2016-epitaph/736166.md?page=4)