# The Jehovahs Witlesses called today

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 29, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596 "2009-01-29T19:24:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/41 "2009-01-30T17:03:22Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> My mom used to invite them in and serve them espresso, back in the 70’s, before most people knew what it was.

JWs drink coffee and have no moral qualms about caffeine.

It’s mormons who don’t indulge in ‘hot drinks’.

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/42 "2009-01-30T17:08:38Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> I always invite them in for martinis! Works every time.

Some JWs drink as well. They don’t have a specific prohibition, although drunkenness is frowned upon and AFAIK, drinking is in moderation and on the down-low.

Mormons do not drink at all.

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**Author:** ![RunSilent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e0b2c6/32.png) [@RunSilent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RunSilent)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/43 "2009-01-30T17:17:59Z")

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I would like to know if JW have ever really converted anyone by door to door soliciting, any time, any place, anywhere…

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/44 "2009-01-30T17:42:15Z")

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> [@VunderBob](#):
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> No they won’t, beause that would constitute a transfusion.

> [@runner pat](#):
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> Not a transfusion, direct consumption, which I understand is the basis for refusing transfusions.

Thanks for the defense, runner pat. I know this information is true because I heard it from somewhere\*. _nods_

[sub]\*in my head[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Apocalypso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Apocalypso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apocalypso)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/45 "2009-01-30T17:55:38Z")

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I’ve only been accosted one time. Why are there always 2 of them? Anyway, I opened my door, and there they were with their pamphlets, suits, and shiny 1950’s haircuts.  
“Hi, do you believe in god?”  
I smiled and said "oh good, I’m a Satanist and we have so few opportunities to learn about " \<lowers voice\> “The enemy”  
“Won’t you please come in? I can tell you a little bit about the Church of Satan and our works, and we can compare notes”.

Haven’t seen them since.

For the record, I’m not a Satanist.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/46 "2009-01-30T18:51:26Z")

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Different places I’ve lived I’ve seen both JW’s and Mormons at the door.

The difference is that the Mormons I’ve encountered are polite and leave when you politely explain that, for whatever reason, you’re not interested. And I’ve not had them return.

The JW’s keep talking until you shut the door in their face, and they come back!

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/47 "2009-01-30T20:06:56Z")

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> [@Lissla\_Lissar](#):
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> We got called by JWs last night. My husband answered the phoned, suddenly looked gleeful, said he _had_ thought about the expression “Blessed are the meek”, and I knew it was JWs, and was disappointed that I hadn’t gotten there first.
> 
> You see, earlier that day we’d been talking about the Sermon on the Mount, and the fact that ‘meek’ originally meant “controlled strength”, or 'obedient to reins", as in breaking a horse.
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> They had a nice chat. He told her a lot of stuff about her texts. Apparently she’d never considered the question of free will before.  
> The last ones to appear at our door looked really confused when I started talking about our conversion to the Catholic Church, and the five Solas on which Protestantism rests. They asked me if I’d ever read the Bible.  
> We _love_ JWs. They’re fun. 😃 They always leave looking confused. And we get to be (gently) pompous know-it-alls.

Jws used the term _“Blessed are the meek”_?

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/48 "2009-01-30T20:10:14Z")

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> [@razncain](#):
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> This happened to two JW’s in my hometown some years back. I was surprised that the New York Times picked up on the story.
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> [http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E5DD1639F931A35755C0A963958260&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss](http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E5DD1639F931A35755C0A963958260&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss)
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> Hell of a way to go. I wonder how they reported that story in their church bulletin.
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> razncain

That article made me laugh. Thanks to you I’m going to Hell.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/49 "2009-01-30T20:27:26Z")

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> [@razncain](#):
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> This happened to two JW’s in my hometown some years back. I was surprised that the New York Times picked up on the story.
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> [http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E5DD1639F931A35755C0A963958260&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss](http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E5DD1639F931A35755C0A963958260&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss)
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> Hell of a way to go. I wonder how they reported that story in their church bulletin.
> 
> razncain

I wonder what was the last thing to go through their minds.

Probably the landing gear.

Hey **Jodi** , wait up!

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/50 "2009-01-30T20:38:13Z")

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Getting rid of Mormons (& Roman Catholics) is easy. “Why would I want to join a religion that discriminates against women?” When they say “Oh no, we don’t do that,” ask them if a woman could become a priest in their religion. When they say “No, but that’s no discrimination,” inform them “Yes, it is. You can tell me you agree with it, but don’t tell me it is not discrimination.”

They have little to say after that.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/51 "2009-01-30T20:49:29Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Getting rid of Mormons (& Roman Catholics) is easy. “Why would I want to join a religion that discriminates against women?” When they say “Oh no, we don’t do that,” ask them if a woman could become a priest in their religion. When they say “No, but that’s no discrimination,” inform them “Yes, it is. You can tell me you agree with it, but don’t tell me it is not discrimination.”
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> They have little to say after that.

Have you actually ever needed to get rid of a Roman Catholic? For all the faults of the RCC, I don’t recall bugging others like JWs to be one of them.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/52 "2009-01-30T20:52:04Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> My Jehovah’s Witnesses story turned me off them forever:
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> My sister the lesbian has one biological daughter, who is a devout JW. My sister and her partner were in a terrible car crash in California and she needed a blood transfusion. Her partner didn’t have the authority to approve it. Her daughter, the devout JW, runs to the hospital and denies permission. The hospital calls me, faxes me the papers in New Jersey, I sign them and fax them back, and the transfusion is approved.
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> I am a raving maniac over the whole thing, very worried about my sister. Fifteen minutes later two JW’s come into my office and start lecturing me about how I doomed my sister the lesiban with a blood transfusion.
> 
> I gave it to them with both barrels. I told them if they ever came into my place of business with their shitty religion again, I would call the cops and file a lawsuit. I told them I was not a believer of any religion that would let people die rather than receiving medical treatment. I told them my sister was a devout lesbian and wasn’t going to convert.
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> They told me they hoped my sister got hepatitus from the transfusion and left.

\*They told you that they hoped your sister got hepatitis? \*

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/53 "2009-01-30T20:54:48Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Have you actually ever needed to get rid of a Roman Catholic? For all the faults of the RCC, I don’t recall bugging others like JWs to be one of them.

You’re correct, they don’t ‘bug others to be one of them.’

And that _is_ one of their faults.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/54 "2009-01-30T20:55:52Z")

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> [@the raindog](#):
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> You’re correct, they don’t ‘bug others to be one of them.’
> 
> And that _is_ one of their faults.
> 
> ☹

What? I don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/55 "2009-01-30T20:56:33Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Have you actually ever needed to get rid of a Roman Catholic? For all the faults of the RCC, I don’t recall bugging others like JWs to be one of them.

I just stopped associating with them. That seemed to do the trick.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/56 "2009-01-30T20:58:09Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> What? I don’t get it.

Don’t worry.

The Catholics don’t get it either.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/57 "2009-01-30T21:04:07Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Have you actually ever needed to get rid of a Roman Catholic? For all the faults of the RCC, I don’t recall bugging others like JWs to be one of them.

I love church architecture and will often go into churches to look at them. Yes, I have been approached by almost every major religion.

> [@raindog](#):
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> They told you that they hoped your sister got hepatitis?

Yes, it was their parting shot as they were leaving. Good thing too, cause I don’t know what I might have done had they stayed.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/58 "2009-01-30T21:07:38Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> …
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> Yes, it was their parting shot as they were leaving. Good thing too, cause I don’t know what I might have done had they stayed.

Aren’t they supposed to be Christians? Do any of these people who claim to be Christians have any idea what Jesus Christ preached?\*

\*I realize this very thing is the subject of a current pit thread but I’m not going back in there again. It made my head hurt. … mommy.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/59 "2009-01-30T21:10:40Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Yes, it was their parting shot as they were leaving. Good thing too, cause I don’t know what I might have done had they stayed.

I don’t believe you.

I don’t doubt for a moment that you harbor deep animosity towards JWs. You’ve stated your reasons, in part.

But over the last few years I’ve noticed many posts of yours that [on factual, often doctrinal] matters you have been _highly inaccurate._

Of course, I have no way of knowing whether this exchange took place or not. I have read enough of your posts (and the palpable, visceral bias attendant in them) to believe that they never said anything like that _at all._ In fact, I highly doubt they visited you in person _at all._

I’ll concede it may have happened. I am simply saying _I don’t believe you._

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jehovahs-witlesses-called-today/483596/60 "2009-01-30T21:18:06Z")

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> [@the raindog](#):
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> Don’t worry.
> 
> The Catholics don’t get it either.

Could you possible take the time to explain this?

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