# The Jeopardy thread \[was James Holzhauer\]\[contains spoilers\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** reality-or-game-show\
**Created:** [April 17, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696 "2019-04-17T21:53:54Z")\
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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> what stereotypes? Was she from Jersey?

Her accent sounded like it.

I was prepared for some gum-snappin’ poufed hair Jersey bimbo stereotype, but I don’t see what you all are complaining about. She was fine. I liked her jacket. You’re a tough crowd.

She’s nowhere near as bad as Austin Rodgers. I don’t even know if that is possible.

> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> “Black sheep, black sheep”? That was bullshit, bullshit.

I can’t believe they let that pass.

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> “Black sheep, black sheep”? That was bullshit, bullshit.

> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I can’t believe they let that pass.

Ahem. A fifteen second Google search yielded this:

“Black sheep, black sheep, have you any wool?  
Yes, my little master, three bags full;  
One for my master and one for his dame,  
And one for the little boy that lives in the lane.”

**Published in L. Frank Baum’s first children’s book, Mother Goose in Prose (1897), illustrated by Maxfield Parrish.**

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Now you see, I could have looked that up myself. And that’s exactly why I didn’t. 😉

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In tonight’s game, in the mountains category, there was a picture of a saddle between two mountain peaks that looked fascinating, and beautiful. I just had to look it up to see where that was, and I found it:

Sedlena Greda (or Saddle Mountain) in Durmitor National Park, Montenegro

[https://is.gd/dKZTbj](https://is.gd/dKZTbj) \< web images

Fantastic.

[![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/SedlenaGreda.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/SedlenaGreda.jpg)

.

That’s not the best angle. On _Jeopardy!_ they showed a better picture but this is the best I was able to find.

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I found another good picture, but still not the same as in tonight’s clue (click to see full pic on imgur).

[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/wD0BSeU.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/ch7Ac8h)

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/2086 "2021-05-11T14:54:08Z")

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> [@TreacherousCretin](#):
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> Ahem. A fifteen second Google search yielded this:

My Google search returned no such match. I even specifically typed “Black sheep black sheep have you any wool”, and the only matches returned are “Baa Baa Black Sheep”.  
But it did return this:

> **[Baa, Baa, Black Sheep](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baa,_Baa,_Black_Sheep)**
>
> "Baa, Baa, Black Sheep" is an English nursery rhyme, the earliest printed version of which dates from around 1744. The words have barely changed in two and a half centuries. It is sung to a variant of the 18th century French melody Ah! vous dirai-je, maman.
> The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes gives the following modern version:
> Baa, baa, black sheep,
> Have you any wool?
> Yes, sir, yes, sir,
> Three bags full;
> One for the master,
> And one for the dame,
> And one for the little boy
> Who lives down th...

Which mentions no variation as in Jeopardy.

Did you really think I didn’t check before posting? With THIS crowd? 🙂

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> In tonight’s game, in the mountains category, there was a picture of a saddle between two mountain peaks that looked fascinating, and beautiful.

On the Big Island of Hawaii, there’s a saddle between Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa. The Saddle Road (Rte. 200) transverses the entire island, through the saddle. I’ve driven it, and found it the only boring part of the island.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/2088 "2021-05-11T17:20:48Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Which mentions no variation as in Jeopardy.
> 
> Did you really think I didn’t check before posting? With THIS crowd?

1. Google this exactly as written including quotation marks: “Black Sheep Black Sheep have you any wool”

2. Here’s the THIRD link in the list of hits: _[The Black Sheep](https://americanliterature.com/author/l-frank-baum/short-story/the-black-sheep)_

You’re welcome.

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The Roman’s called it “The half pipe of the Gods”.

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> [@panache45](#):
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> > [@Bullitt](#):
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> > In tonight’s game, in the mountains category, there was a picture of a saddle between two mountain peaks that looked fascinating, and beautiful.
> 
> On the Big Island of Hawaii, there’s a saddle between Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa. The Saddle Road (Rte. 200) transverses the entire island, through the saddle. I’ve driven it, and found it the only boring part of the island.

I’ve driven it too. Agree. Boring.

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[quote=“Bullitt, post:2090, topic:832696, full:true”]

> [@panache45](#):
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> > [@Bullitt](#):
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> > > In tonight’s game, in the mountains category, there was a picture of a saddle between two mountain peaks that looked fascinating, and beautiful.  
> > > [/quote]
> > > 
> > > On the Big Island of Hawaii, there’s a saddle between Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa. The Saddle Road (Rte. 200) transverses the entire island, through the saddle. I’ve driven it, and found it the only boring part of the island.
> 
> I’ve driven it too. Agree. Boring.

You guys weren’t driving fast enough.

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[quote=“muldoonthief, post:2091, topic:832696, full:true”]

> [@Bullitt](#):
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> > [@panache45](#):
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> > > [@Bullitt](#):
> > >
> > > > In tonight’s game, in the mountains category, there was a picture of a saddle between two mountain peaks that looked fascinating, and beautiful.  
> > > > [/quote]
> > > > 
> > > > On the Big Island of Hawaii, there’s a saddle between Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa. The Saddle Road (Rte. 200) transverses the entire island, through the saddle. I’ve driven it, and found it the only boring part of the island.
> > 
> > I’ve driven it too. Agree. Boring.
> 
> You guys weren’t driving fast enough.

I didn’t want to get airborne. Actually I was in a rental car. I should’ve gotten ALL the insurance and driven it fast!

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There was a clue last week, in the category “the role in common”:

> [@](#):
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> Richard Roundtree, Samuel L. Jackson

Would they have given me credit if I’d said “who’s the black private dick that’s a sex machine to all the chicks?” It is phrased in the form of a question.

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Would they have given me credit if I’d said “who’s the black private dick that’s a sex machine to all the chicks?” It is phrased in the form of a question.

Probably not. But I would have said it anyway.

I can dig it!

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Shut yo’ mouf!

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But I’m talkin’ ‘bout Shaft.

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According to an article at [goodhousekeeping.com](http://goodhousekeeping.com) (May 3, 2021) of all places:

According to executive producer and previous guest host [Mike Richards](https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/a35615924/who-is-mike-richards-jeopardy-host/), who recently spoke on [The Wall Street Journal’s podcast The Journal](https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/the-journal/the-jeopardy-showrunner-on-the-search-for-a-new-host/24f156b8-34c5-4c07-bf56-1f3868832950?mod=e2tw), a decision will be made before the next season of Jeopardy! begins taping in late July or early August.

“…if on Friday it’s Alex’s last show and then Monday it’s a new person’s show, that would probably be unfair to the person stepping in to do it.”

They are running focus groups.

“We want to go at this with real analytics and real testing and not just go, ‘Hey, how about this guy?’ which is kind of how a lot of these decisions have been made historically.”

Richards also said that there’s no leading contender for the permanent hosting position right now as testing continues.

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> [@Steven\_Maven](#):
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> According to executive producer and previous guest host **Mike Richards** …

So far, Richards has been my favorite Guest Host. I know that makes me an outlier.

I wonder if he would consider being permanent host a “step down” from his current position as Show Runner for both _Jeopardy!_ and _Wheel of Fortune_. I’m referring to both Professional Status and salary.

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No, I also liked Mike Richards as host.

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> [@Steven\_Maven](#):
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> So far, Richards has been my favorite Guest Host. I know that makes me an outlier.

> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> No, I also liked Mike Richards as host.

Our household votes for him.

The difference is so great that third place is closer to Oz than to Richards.

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