# The Jeopardy thread \[was James Holzhauer\]\[contains spoilers\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** reality-or-game-show\
**Created:** [April 17, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696 "2019-04-17T21:53:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\
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Still, that’s a lot of TMI.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
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I’m curious: How many of Shakespeare’s plays are actually centered around a battle?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3289 "2021-11-04T15:29:52Z")

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Antony & Cleopatra, and Actium…

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
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So we have Actium and Agincourt (in _ **Henry V** _) … any others?

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**Author:** ![gregorio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@gregorio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gregorio)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3291 "2021-11-04T16:32:40Z")

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I took it to be she dropped the news that she was pregnant. He got two instances of big news on that day. Also, they should have called Alex’s twin sister Alexa. What could possibly go wrong?

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3292 "2021-11-04T23:51:59Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> So we have Actium and Agincourt (in _ **Henry V** _) … any others?

That might depend on how you define “centered around” a battle. For example, _Richard III_’s plot certainly climaxes at Bosworth Field, but certain definitions of “centered” might lead to a decision that the play is more about a villain’s villainous machinations, and less about the battle.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3293 "2021-11-05T00:05:39Z")

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“Taming of the Shrew?”

d&r

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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> “Taming of the Shrew?”  
> d&r

tee hee 😁

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3295 "2021-11-05T01:36:02Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> I’m curious: How many of Shakespeare’s plays are actually centered around a battle?

Define “centered”  
Anthony & Cleopatra  
Richard III  
Henry V  
one of the Henry VI (don’t remember which)  
Macbeth  
King John  
Julius Caesar

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3296 "2021-11-05T02:39:45Z")

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Not Macbeth. It starts with a battle over and ends with a battle over, but there isn’t any anywhere else in the play. Hardly the “center” of the play.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3297 "2021-11-05T03:55:58Z")

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My go-to Shakespeare play when I don’t know the answer is Toilets and Cressida.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3298 "2021-11-05T04:10:02Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> My go-to Shakespeare play when I don’t know the answer is Toilets and Cressida.

Then I guess you’re often shit out of luck.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3299 "2021-11-05T05:30:45Z")

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Final Jeopardy tonight, the category was “official languages”:

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> It’s the only U.N. member state outside Europe with Dutch as an official language

My thought process was “Did the Cutch colonize any part of Africa? Maybe I’m thinking of Belgium. Or do they have some territory in the South Pacific, somewhere? South America, or is that all Spanish or Portuguese? Anything in the Caribbean? I better guess something.” And then I blurted out “what is Suriname?”

I was floored when it turned out to be right. I wasn’t even sure where Suriname is. I don’t think it was just a lucky guess, but I have no idea how I knew this.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3300 "2021-11-05T05:33:51Z")

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Thanks for your comments. They’re very helpful.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
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My thought processes were similar, but Suriname was the first thing that came to my mind. I spent the remainder of the 30 seconds ruling out everywhere else on Earth in case I might be wrong.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
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> [@terentii](#):
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> Thanks for your comments. They’re very helpful.

On Shakespeare, I mean.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3303 "2021-11-05T07:59:10Z")

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I knew about Suriname, but didn’t know it was the only one. I thought of Aruba and Curacao, but they’re not in the U.N.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3304 "2021-11-05T11:38:54Z")

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I thought that there may have been an outside chance that Indonesia would have been right. Suriname was my top choice, though.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I don’t think it was just a lucky guess, but I have no idea how I knew this.

Same here. Somewhere in my brain the data must be there, but the index is damaged enough that all I had was “Dutch\>Suriname”. No further data. Like Sherlock says to Joan in Elementary, trust your first instinct.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3306 "2021-11-05T14:43:39Z")

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I have a friend who was married to a woman from Suriname for a few years so it occurred to me immediately.

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