# The Jeopardy thread \[was James Holzhauer\]\[contains spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** reality-or-game-show\ **Created:** [April 17, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696 "2019-04-17T21:53:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 172
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3427 "2021-11-21T23:57:59Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > > [@carrps](#): > > > > …The thing about English kings that bugs me the most is how few different names all those kings had. I heard a rumor that Diana wanted to name William Oliver, but the Firm wouldn’t let her. I think it would have been nice to have had a different name for a change. > > For very understandable reasons, “Oliver” would not have been greeted with pleasure by the British royal family—and you can be fairly certain that Diana knew that and was trolling them: Ha, I thought of him when I was typing my post. I’d love it if she really were trolling them! ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3428 "2021-11-22T00:11:22Z")
> [@Arcite](#): > > I’ve never seen _Hamilton_ , but now that I know this, I would say this is probably the reason the writers would think that this is something people would know or could think of–the popularity of _Hamilton._ I’ve never seen _Hamilton_ and never intend to, but I lived on Manhattan for many years, even sailed around it several times. It’s definitely an island. _Jeopardy!_ clues don’t have to be “common knowledge.” I’m not the only person who has a CD of sackbut music. ---
**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3429 "2021-11-22T00:32:28Z")
The factoid I was speculating the Jeopardy writers presumed people would know from seeing _Hamilton_ is the fact that a former Treasury Secretary is buried there, not the fact that it’s an island. ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3430 "2021-11-22T12:05:58Z")
Bad-at-history guy checking in. From _Hamilton_ I knew that AH was born in the Caribbean, so in playing along I promptly assumed his remains were buried back there and spent the 30 seconds trying to remember which Caribbean island that was. Seemed odd to me that other notables from the era would also be buried there but I thought that was cluing being offered. So basically if any of the contestants had written Barbados or Aruba or something my reaction would have been ‘yeah, pretty good guess’, as opposed to the WTF? response the rest of you would have had. I do recall the cemetery getting a mention in _Hamilton_ upon being reminded of that by this thread, but it wasn’t a big takeaway for me since there was no song about it. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3431 "2021-11-22T13:41:49Z")
I’ve been to the graveyard at Trinity Church, but it was years ago. I hope I’d have gotten this FJ, but I missed the show that night so we’ll never know. > [@Borborygmi](#): > > From _Hamilton_ I knew that AH was born in the Caribbean,… I knew that Alexander Hamilton was born on Nevis from visiting Nevis. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3432 "2021-11-22T14:56:47Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I knew that Alexander Hamilton was born on Nevis from visiting Nevis. I knew AH died in a duel from Star Trek. eta: and by who from the got milk? commercial. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3433 "2021-11-22T18:26:55Z")
Yeah, anytime “Aaron Burr” is the answer, I have to say it like I have a mouthful of peanut butter. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3434 "2021-11-22T23:48:52Z")
We were just talking about those damned dead kings! ---
**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3435 "2021-11-23T03:32:15Z")
The crazy thing is that, despite my frequent complaining about the impossibility of remembering monarchs, I actually got two out of those five: William the Conqueror, because he can be identified with something other than an ordinal number and it’s easy for me to recall 1066 and the Norman conquest of England, and Henry VIII, because there was a Herman’s Hermits song about him. And this may have been for me the repetition that the George who was king during the American Revolution was George III that will cause it to finally stick. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3436 "2021-11-23T03:37:37Z")
When it comes to numbered monarchs, I’m consistently one number off, even with the American Revolution one, and the French beheaded one. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3437 "2021-11-23T05:37:31Z")
I got two of the monarchs clues, but it was a different two. “but George the Third still vowed he rule them till the end…” [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/WvOZs3g3qIo/hqdefault.jpg "SchoolHouse Rock - No More Kings") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvOZs3g3qIo) And I vaguely remembered that King John took over while Richard the Lionheart was crusading as part of the Robin Hood legend. _King John_ was also one of Shakespeare’s histories, although it’s not as well known as some others. I saw it performed in the back room of a bar, and they gave out cocktail toothpicks with British and French flags for the audience to wave during the battle scenes. I even got Harding right for Final Jeopardy. I didn’t think I knew that, but apparently I do. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3438 "2021-11-23T06:02:07Z")
Did anyone else notice that there were two clues tonight for which the correct response was “who is Marlowe?” ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3439 "2021-11-23T06:11:18Z")
I managed three of the English monarchs tonight: William the Conqueror, Henry VIII, and George III. But FJ totally stumped me. Glad I wasn’t playing for real. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3440 "2021-11-23T15:34:05Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > “but George the Third still vowed he rule them till the end…” I only know George III because of the film. The one they had to change the title lest Amercians wonder how they missed the two previous films, The Madness of King George, and the Madness of King George II (NOT electric boogaloo). ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3441 "2021-11-23T15:51:44Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > …The Madness of King George, and the Madness of King George II (NOT electric boogaloo). Followed by _Song of the Mad King George_, _Love Finds Mad King George_, and _Madness of King George 6: King Georger_. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3442 "2021-11-23T15:59:29Z")
One of the clues mentioned Richard the Lionhearted so I remembered John from the Robin Hood film starring Errol Flynn. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3443 "2021-11-23T16:01:32Z")
The only king I missed was probably the easiest – when the clue said “Reformation” I thought “Restoration” an would have said “Charles II”. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3444 "2021-11-23T16:07:32Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Followed by Don’t forget Madness: The New Beginning, and George v George: An American Tale ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3445 "2021-11-23T16:36:09Z")
I got yesterday’s FJ correct, but it was more or less a semi-educated guess. Category was 20th Century Presidents, and the clue was “He won an election in which both he & his Democratic opponent were from Ohio & both were wealthy newspaper publishers.” The answer is Warren G. Harding I thought I remembered that he was from Ohio, so that was my guess. I had no idea that he was a newspaper publisher, and I certainly didn’t know who his opponent was. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696/3446 "2021-11-23T16:45:47Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I thought I remembered that he was from Ohio, so that was my guess. I had no idea that he was a newspaper publisher, and I certainly didn’t know who his opponent was. I wasn’t even sure he was 20th Century, but it was still the best guess I had. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696.md?page=171) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jeopardy-thread-was-james-holzhauer-contains-spoilers/832696.md?page=173)