# "The Jews killed Arafat!" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 22, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155 "2004-11-22T19:33:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/41 "2004-11-23T03:50:30Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Eh, that’s not necessarily true. > I could see the Weitzman Institute coming up with some untracable poison all on their own. I agree. But who funds the institute? We fund 90% of Israel’s military. And the Palestinians know it. Is there any wonder why they hate us? Hell…we gave Israel armored humvees before we gave them to our own troops. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/42 "2004-11-23T04:34:56Z")
Tinfoil-it’s what’s for hats. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/43 "2004-11-23T04:37:51Z")
(stamping my foot with annoyance) You suspect Arafat, a sickly old man, was POISONED?!?!? Brother **Reeder** , you have become an embarassment to those of us who are merely paranoid. What possible motivation could there have been to hurry along what was obviously imminent when the risks of discovery were so great? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/44 "2004-11-23T04:49:11Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > (stamping my foot with annoyance) > > You suspect Arafat, a sickly old man, was POISONED?!?!? Brother **Reeder** , you have become an embarassment to those of us who are merely paranoid. What possible motivation could there have been to hurry along what was obviously imminent when the risks of discovery were so great? :mad: Show me where I said he was poisoned. Idiot. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/45 "2004-11-23T04:51:59Z")
You danced around it but left obvious who you were dancing with. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/46 "2004-11-23T04:52:48Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > You wanna know what’s so bad? > > If Israel did it. And I’m not saying they did. Just if. > > American tax dollars paid for it. Given what a corrupt, thieving and murderous fuck he was what’s really so bad is that the Palestinians didn’t do it. Arafat should have died at the hands of a suicide bomber. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/47 "2004-11-23T05:07:51Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > You danced around it but left obvious who you were dancing with. Personally. I don’t give a fuck if they did or not. Regardless of what you want to try to pin on me. Want to know what I really think? I wish the Israeli government and the Palestinian government would kill each other off and the people of both countries could go on with their lives. But casting aspersions is wahat you want to do. Well fuck you asshole. My gripe is that mine and your tax dollars are used to kill Palestinians. Is that ok with you? ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/48 "2004-11-23T05:11:13Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > You wanna know what’s so bad? > > If Israel did it. And I’m not saying they did. Just if. > > American tax dollars paid for it. Well, in that case, we’d finally be killing an actual terrorist with our tax dollars, I would have thought you’d be happy that we finally got it right. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/49 "2004-11-23T05:12:57Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > Show me where I said he was poisoned. > > Idiot. No, asshole, he didn’t claim you “said” he was poisoned, just that you “suspect” so. BTW, I don’t think I have ever seen such bizarre and twisted logic as in this gem: > [@Reeder](#): > > You wanna know what’s so bad? > > If Israel did it. And I’m not saying they did. Just if. > > American tax dollars paid for it. And I say to you, dear **Reeder** , "If you are a genius. And I’m not saying you are. Just if. I killed Arafat." Same logic. From a falsehood, _anything_ follows. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/50 "2004-11-23T05:18:32Z")
One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. If my country had been taken from me by mandate… Then I’d be a “terrorist” too. Wouldn’t you? Of course you wouldn’t. Fighting for your country is a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/51 "2004-11-23T05:25:58Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > Is that ok with you? (angelic smile) Why, yes it IS, Mr Reeder! Every April 15th I enclose a note asking that every last dime of my taxes be spent on exterminating the Palestinians. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > If Israel did it. And I’m not saying they did. Just if. This is the classic dodge of a conspiracy nut who doesn’t want to be pinned down as actually saying something. This allowed you to suggest an accusation, as you also did when you said > [@](#): > > Poisoning with obvious poisons I agree. > > But if they could make in look natural. but still hop up and down saying, “Show me where I said Israel poisoned him!” It’s weaseling, pure and simple. It’s really sad when you use methods so cheap and sleazy that you get a person like me, who usually agrees with you, to call you on it. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/52 "2004-11-23T05:26:17Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Nope, freedom fighters don’t target women and children. Try again. > [@Reeder](#): > > If my country had been taken from me by mandate… They didn’t have a country, ‘palestinians’ were mostly Jordanians. Try again. > [@Reeder](#): > > Then I’d be a “terrorist” too. > Wouldn’t you? Nope, I’d attack military targets and not blow up busses. Try again. > [@Reeder](#): > > Of course you wouldn’t. > Fighting for your country is a bad thing. Deliberately murdering women and children is a bad thing. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/53 "2004-11-23T05:29:53Z")
So the country called Palestine pre 1948 was just a suburb of Jordon? Give me a fucking break. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/54 "2004-11-23T05:33:20Z")
**Reeder** , I think you should take a deep breath for a moment. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/55 "2004-11-23T05:33:30Z")
Deliberately murdering women and children is a bad thing. Try again. Interesting. King David Hotel. Look it up. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/56 "2004-11-23T05:35:00Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > King David Hotel. > > Look it up. I’m well aware of the history of the region, Irgun, Hagana, and the Stern Gang. The fact remains that the Palestinians’ **current** strategy _targets_ civilians. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/57 "2004-11-23T05:35:16Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > **Reeder** , I think you should take a deep breath for a moment. I am no defender of Arafat. Of course he was a terrorist. But why is there only one side of the story on this board? ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/58 "2004-11-23T05:36:57Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > I’m well aware of the history of the region, Irgun, Hagana, and the Stern Gang. > The fact remains that the Palestinians’ **current** strategy _targets_ civilians. > Try again. What?? They didn’t target civilians?? Hell… the attack on the King David Hotel killed 15 Jews. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/59 "2004-11-23T05:37:26Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > So the country called Palestine pre 1948 was just a suburb of Jordon? > > . Nope, [it was Transjordan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transjordan) Try again. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/60 "2004-11-23T05:38:27Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > What?? > They didn’t target civilians?? > Hell… the attack on the King David Hotel killed 15 Jews. What exactly does the word “current” mean to you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155.md?page=4)