# "The Jews killed Arafat!" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 22, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155 "2004-11-22T19:33:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/121 "2004-11-24T00:02:30Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Elaborate please. I was referring to the irony of **sevastopol** claiming that others are missing out on the world’s subtleties. Guess I was too subtle. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/122 "2004-11-24T00:05:19Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I was referring to the irony of **sevastopol** claiming that others are missing out on the world’s subtleties. > Guess I was too subtle. (I wasn’t sure who you were refering to) And… That was a very good laugh, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/123 "2004-11-24T01:00:44Z")
The history of our foreign aid to Israel. Be aware…it is a PDF file. [http://www.fas.org/man/crs/IB85066.pdf](http://www.fas.org/man/crs/IB85066.pdf) As an aside. If you don’t have adobe reader 6 you should get it. Many improvements. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/124 "2004-11-24T01:06:08Z")
Now tell me we aren’t financing Israels military. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/125 "2004-11-24T01:07:47Z")
Money goes towards the IDF, and has for some time now. But that in and of itself isn’t wrong, is it? Where is the substance of your argument please? ---
**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/126 "2004-11-24T02:59:08Z")
> [@GaWd](#): > > …That your meat-handed attempt at humor by pointing out some grammatical error failed? Sometimes you win some, sometimes not. It happens. That said, I’m curious. Why did you post three laughing smilies when **FinnAgain** did a clunky and later imitation of the same joke? > [@GaWd](#): > > > [@FinnAgain](#): > > > > Yep genius, I know, you don’t feel any need to correct **erroneous** facts. > > 😛😛😛 Is this a Jewish solidarity thing? ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/127 "2004-11-24T03:03:47Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Money goes towards the IDF, and has for some time now. > But that in and of itself isn’t wrong, is it? > Where is the substance of your argument please? Money goes to the IDF? Much money goes to the IDF. Who was it that said…“A billion here…a billion there and soon you are talking real money”. I have an idea. Suppose we let Israel pay for their own military? Even the money or loans we give Israel frees up money they can pour into their military. Do we give the Palestinians any military money? Of course not. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/128 "2004-11-24T03:12:26Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > Suppose we let Israel pay for their own military? Even the money or loans we give Israel frees up money they can pour into their military. You’ve mentioned dollar ammounts and such, but as of yet I’ve seen no reason (or at least haven’t seen your reasonsing) as to why we shouldn’t be giving Israel money. Would you mind making that explicit? > [@Reeder](#): > > Do we give the Palestinians any military money? > Of course not. See, we don’t give money to the Palestinians becuase there is a massive contingent of Palestinians who are murderous fucks dedicated to the destruction of any Jewish state and who routinely target civilians. Ya know, they’re terrorists. Again, I’m not sure what your reasoning is… we need to give money to the terrorists as well as their victims to make things even-steven? ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/129 "2004-11-24T03:17:40Z")
Let me get this straight. You say all Palestinians are… what were your words? murderous fucks? Why are we giving money to the Israeli’s who target kids and teenagers? Aren’t they murderous fucks? Do I need to show you links or do you read the news? ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/130 "2004-11-24T03:19:08Z")
> [@sevastopol](#): > > That said, I’m curious. Why did you post three laughing smilies when **FinnAgain** did a clunky and later imitation of the same joke? > > Is this a Jewish solidarity thing? That’s it. I show my solidarity to **Brother Finn** by displaying the Zionist sign of the Three Smilies like Zo: 😛😛😛 This is how we show each other that we’re there for them. Couldn’t it be that I think you’re a cock and coming from you it had all the humor of a suicide bomber and yet, coming from someone of level-head like my Zionist conspirator, Finn, it was funny as hell? Sam ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/131 "2004-11-24T03:19:23Z")
lets see.because they are a state? ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/132 "2004-11-24T03:22:02Z")
That was my reply to Reeders third query. ;j :mad: 😕 :dubious: :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/133 "2004-11-24T03:26:29Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > lets see.because they are a state? So is North Korea. So by your reasoning we should be paying for their military too? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/134 "2004-11-24T03:29:38Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > Let me get this straight. You say all Palestinians are… what were your words? murderous fucks? Wow… just… wow… You want to apologize for suggesting that I’ve stated a group is fungible in order to demonize them, or should I just tell you to go fuck yourself? Nowhere have I said **all** Palestinians are anything, and to be quite frank, I fucking resent that insinuation. > [@Reeder](#): > > Why are we giving money to the Israeli’s who target kids and teenagers? Prove it. > [@Reeder](#): > > Do I need to show you links or do you read the news? Now that’s ironic. Every post in this thread where I’ve posted a cite I’ve kicked your ass with it, you’ve yet to post a single cite that gets at your actual point (which I will note, has nothing to do with economics. I will also note that it is fundementally dishonest for you to not make your position explicit and justify it. Nobody disputed that we give money to Israel, if you wish to debate the conduct of the IDF, then post cites and make your case.) And now you’re asking _me_ if _I_ read the news? You at least get an A for nerve. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/135 "2004-11-24T03:30:46Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > So is North Korea. > > So by your reasoning we should be paying for their military too? I so knew you were going to say that. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/136 "2004-11-24T03:32:34Z")
> [@GaWd](#): > > . I That’s itshow my solidarity to **Brother Finn** by displaying the Zionist sign of the Three Smilies like Zo: 😛😛😛 This is how we show each other that we’re there for them. Goddamnit **GaWd** , if you go unmasking the conspiracy all over the place we’re just gonna have to off some more goyim! ~sighs~ You are **so** burying the next body! ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/137 "2004-11-24T03:32:34Z")
So I guess you want links to news stories about the Israelis targeting kids and teenagers. Be back in a few. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/138 "2004-11-24T03:34:42Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > So is North Korea. > > So by your reasoning we should be paying for their military too? Of course, we have the same friendly relationship with North Korea as we do with Israel! ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/139 "2004-11-24T03:34:58Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > So I guess you want links to news stories about the Israelis targeting kids and teenagers. This may be the pit, but it’s still the Dope. As the saying goes, cite? And just to clarify, the only thing I want is not just for you to support your position. I am dead serious, I expect an apology or a retraction of your totally spurious claim that I have suggested that all Palestinians think/do/are anything. You don’t get to paint me as a racist/bigot and get away with it, sorry to say. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/140 "2004-11-24T03:48:12Z")
I stayed away from obviously biased sites like Al Jeezera. There are many more if you want. > **[Palestinian doctors despair at rising toll of children shot dead by army snipers](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/may/20/israel)** > > As the carnage in Rafah escalates, bullet wounds belie the official Israeli line on killings of young teenagers. > **[Gaza incursion takes toll on children](https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/gaza-incursion-takes-toll-on-children-20041007-gdjvh1.html)** [http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/03/mideast.violence/](http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/03/mideast.violence/)… With this one…granted the terrorists took refuge in the school but it didn’t matter to the Israelis whether there were children there or not. My whole point. [http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE151472002?open&of=ENG-PSE](http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE151472002?open&of=ENG-PSE) > [@](#): > > In the two years since the beginning of the intifada, the Palestinian uprising against Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip which broke out in September 2000, more than 250 Palestinian and 72 Israeli children have been killed. > **[Growing number of children killed by Israeli snipers - Taipei Times](http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2004/10/07/2003205889)** > > Islam Dwidar\\'s classmates were still taking in her shocking death -- the teacher weeping outside before facing the girls, her closest friend recounting how they walked to school together each day -- when the news arrived about Tahreer Abu El... [http://chapelhill.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/11982\_comment.php](http://chapelhill.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/11982_comment.php) And for one final link since many here take them as gospel… [http://chapelhill.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/11982\_comment.php](http://chapelhill.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/11982_comment.php) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155.md?page=8)