# "The Jews killed Arafat!" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 22, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155 "2004-11-22T19:33:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/141 "2004-11-24T03:53:37Z")
Reeder, on these so-called “targetted” children and teenagers. Did they happen to belong to terror groups or have anything to do with terror attacks? Or are you saying the IDF routinely just picks a couple poor Palestinian teens to gun down? > [@FinnAgain](#): > > Goddamnit **GaWd** , if you go unmasking the conspiracy all over the place we’re just gonna have to off some more goyim! > ~sighs~ > You are **so** burying the next body! D’oh! I’ve been a bad Zionist Conspirator. I almost told them about the secret handshake. Wait, did I mention the Secret Handshake? :eek: Nooooooooooooooooooo ;j Sam ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/142 "2004-11-24T03:55:18Z")
My apologies. You only think most Palestininians are murderous fucks. > [@](#): > > See, we don’t give money to the Palestinians becuase there is a massive contingent of Palestinians who are murderous fucks dedicated to the destruction of any Jewish state and who routinely target civilians. > Ya know, they’re terrorists. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/143 "2004-11-24T03:57:13Z")
Not a massive contingent; just 2 guys who really get around. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/144 "2004-11-24T03:59:26Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > [http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/03/mideast.violence/](http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/03/mideast.violence/)… > With this one…granted the terrorists took refuge in the school but it didn’t matter to the Israelis whether there were children there or not. Just like it has stopped American forces and forces around the globe from attacking Religious buildings, Mosques, and schools when their enemy retreats inside like cowardly dogs… > [@](#): > > My whole point. > > [http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE151472002?open&of=ENG-PSE](http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE151472002?open&of=ENG-PSE) THis is your “whole point”? How thin… > [@](#): > > And for one final link since many here take them as gospel… > > [http://chapelhill.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/11982\_comment.php](http://chapelhill.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/11982_comment.php) I take this faulty “cite” for nothing. Some blogger posts a picture of a soldier with a weapon in the “rest” position and calls it “pointing” the weapon at schoolchildren? This is the gospel? The Gospel of propaganda, maybe… Seeing how they have a rather funny idea about “fact”, I would think the entire cite with a grain of salt. Sam ---
**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/145 "2004-11-24T03:59:42Z")
> [@GaWd](#): > > coming from you it had all the humor of a suicide bomber and yet, coming from someone of level-head like my Zionist conspirator, Finn, it was funny as hell? > > Sam Credit where it’s due **GaWd** , credit where it’s due. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/146 "2004-11-24T04:06:11Z")
> [@GaWd](#): > > snip… > > I take this faulty “cite” for nothing. Some blogger posts a picture of a soldier with a weapon in the “rest” position and calls it “pointing” the weapon at schoolchildren? This is the gospel? The Gospel of propaganda, maybe… > > Seeing how they have a rather funny idea about “fact”, I would think the entire cite with a grain of salt. > > Sam I agree. It came from wikipedia. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/147 "2004-11-24T04:15:18Z")
IMHO…It looks like the Israelis think…kill them young and they won’t grow up to be terrorists. Let them do what they want. I just don’t want the US to help them do it. As long as we do help them…there will be a never ending stream of people that hate us. I don’t give a fuck if they hate Israel. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/148 "2004-11-24T04:21:08Z")
> [@danceswithcats](#): > > Does a license for hunting 2% ilk cost less than a whole ilk license? Only in Israel, the land of ilk and honey. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/149 "2004-11-24T04:22:55Z")
Oh holy christ Reeder, shut the fuck up. There is absolutely nothing to support such a disgusting claim. There never has been and never will be. The U.S. does enough all on its own to garner hate and derision. To suggest that Israel is on a path of genocide hell-bent on eliminating whole generations of young Palestinians is beyond the pale. Even for you it’s unusually paranoid. Why don’t you concern yourself with things you can safely comment on. THings that We as Americans do across the globe that are directly affected by our hand, not abstractly by our money. Sam ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/150 "2004-11-24T04:23:15Z")
You have yet to prove that the IDF is specificaly targeting children. I, on the other hand, can prove [not only are Palestinians arming their children, they know it’s wrong and don’t want anybody catching it on film.](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,61434,00.html) Or how about [a mother of a suicide bomber who pleads with terrorist groups to stop using children to kill?](http://www.dailynews.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=2283746) And as long as you like Human Rights Watch [how about what they have to say on the Palestinians using children for murder?](http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2004/11/02/isrlpa9591.htm) And they say a picture is worth 1000 words, how about [a whole lot of photos and articles?](http://www.mideastnewswire.com/archive/me_rights_abuse_children.html#p_ca_videos) How about [setting up a terror training camp for children as young as ten?](http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1172081/posts) [Or a Wikipedia article talking about Palestinian tactics, including their kids being killed by carrying pipe bombs?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bomber) [Take a good look, a very good look.](http://www.jewishgrassroots.com/images/Shocking%20images%20of%20Palestinian%20toddlers_files/Shocking%20images%20of%20Palestinian%20toddlers.htm) So you see, simply pointing out that Palestinian children are killed ignored the fact of who put them in harms way, and why. Oh, and > [@Reeder](#): > > My apologies. > You only think most Palestininians are murderous fucks. You sarcastic fuck. [Hamas is a member of the PA, that a massive enough contingent for you?](http://www.hamasonline.org/index.php?blogid=1&archive=2003-10) [How about Fatah?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah) You want more? You’re acting like a dumb fuck, and I do NOT appreciate your attempts to paint me as a racist, you asshole. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/151 "2004-11-24T04:29:19Z")
> [@sevastopol](#): > > Is this a Jewish solidarity thing? It’s really more of an anti-idiot solidarity thing. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/152 "2004-11-24T04:29:33Z")
Where did I paint you as a racist? You are the one that played the racist card you twerp. It does seem to be a touchy point with you. But I never mentioned racism. Hell… I never even thought about it. My gripe is that you support the exact reason most people in the mideast hate us. And as long as we pay for Israels ability to kill Palestinians…they will continue to hate us. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/153 "2004-11-24T04:34:42Z")
I never once said what the Palestinians are doing is right. Never once you asshole. I don’t give a fuck about Israel or the Palestinians. I care about my country. The soldiers we put in harms way. If Israel means more to you…good for you. I hope you sleep well at night. Seeing as our soldiers are dying for your wants. Fuck you. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/154 "2004-11-24T04:37:08Z")
God damn it. People like you piss me off. The cares and concerns of a foreign country outweigh the needs of our own country. You make me fucking sick. How many American soldiers have died because of your beliefs? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/155 "2004-11-24T04:41:13Z")
Listen. You’ve claimed that I’ve said “all” palestians are something, and that I’ve said that "most are murderous fucks. In case you’re clueless, both those statements tacitly call me a racist. And yes, it’s a touchy point, becuase I’m not a racist, racism is disgusting, and I do not put up with bullshit accusations. > [@Reeder](#): > > But I never mentioned racism. > Hell… > I never even thought about it. Then you **really** need to look at what you’re saying. Because if someone said “all blacks are X” or “all Jews are Y”, they’d be guilty of racism. Same for “all Palestinians are Z.” > [@Reeder](#): > > My gripe is that you support the exact reason most people in the mideast hate us. And as long as we pay for Israels ability to kill Palestinians…they will continue to hate us. … You want me to furnish you with cites as to how Bin Laden went berserk when we posted troops in Saudi Arabia? Or how other groups hate us for their very own reasons? Oversimplification does nobody any good. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/156 "2004-11-24T04:47:25Z")
As for the racist bit…you are fucking reaching. and you know it. As for the Bin Laden thing… Tell you what…You convince Bushco to stop supporting Israel militarily…and watch the change. And this is not a dig. If Kerry had been elected…it would be the same. I never even thought about racism. I don’t even see where racism fits into it. Palestinians and jews are both caucasions. Unless you are black? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/157 "2004-11-24T04:51:05Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > I never once said what the Palestinians are doing is right. > [@Reeder](#): > > One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. > If my country had been taken from me by mandate… > Then I’d be a “terrorist” too. Liar > [@Reeder](#): > > Never once you asshole. It’s there in black and white. Fortuantely (for me) you’re the asshole. > [@Reeder](#): > > I don’t give a fuck about Israel or the Palestinians. Then what the fuck is your point? Just that lots of the Arab world is anti-Israel? Do you even **care** what the reality is? > [@Reeder](#): > > I care about my country. The soldiers we put in harms way. We don’t have soldiers in Israel. And the Muslim world has plenty of reasons to hate us besides Israel, your oversimplification is, quite frankly, moronic. Google “the shah” if you really want. > [@Reeder](#): > > If Israel means more to you…good for you. > I hope you sleep well at night. Seeing as our soldiers are dying for your wants. How **dare** you? > [@Reeder](#): > > God damn it. People like you piss me off. The cares and concerns of a foreign country outweigh the needs of our own country. Where have I said that? Idiot. > [@Reeder](#): > > You make me fucking sick. The feeling is begining to become mutual. I can see why you’re a board joke. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/158 "2004-11-24T04:54:38Z")
Board joke? You can’t even come up with your own line. Says a lot about you. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/159 "2004-11-24T04:57:19Z")
That says a lot too you know. For anything you have to say about me to bother me, I’d have to care about what you say. Trust me in this. I don’t care in the least what you say. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155/160 "2004-11-24T05:02:46Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > You can’t even come up with your own line. It’s called a meme. And since I started lurking on the Dope I’ve always seen people refer to you as an example of raving idiocy. It’s simply that before today, I didn’t see the truth in their statements. You are a joke. You are the person who gets compared to all the nuts here. You are the example that gets trotted out. No, I’m not putting you on any ignore filters, but I’ve had it with responding to you. Get a crowbar, us it to get your head out of your ass, and we can talk some other time. Hell, I won’t even hold any grudges. I genuinely enjoyed reading your posts up till now. But right now, I’d rather undergo a vasectomy via weed wacker than endure another instant of ‘discourse’ with you. Ciao. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-killed-arafat/276155.md?page=9)