# The Jim B. Pit

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 12, 2020, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858 "2020-08-12T06:12:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/1 "2020-08-12T06:12:38Z")

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This pitting is a long time coming. I’m so sick and tired of encountering this person’s mind-numbingly stupid threads, the latest of which is:

[Why Are Some Lesbians So Mean?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-some-lesbians-so-mean/917853/15)

(“And why are gay men the opposite”)

Jim, is your stupidity genetic? Is it hormonal or environmental? I don’t recall encountering so much inanity from anyone who wasn’t a troll.

So is Jim a troll or was he just born that way?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/2 "2020-08-12T06:18:08Z")

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I thought that thread was spectacularily un-_woke_.

Bad form. Unkind. Thoughtless.

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**Author:** ![LegendsofClear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@LegendsofClear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LegendsofClear)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/3 "2020-08-12T06:19:56Z")

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I would say the thread as written is ignorant but not actively vicious. An opportunity for a “teachable moment”.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/4 "2020-08-12T06:33:09Z")

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> [@LegendsofClear](#):
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> I would say the thread as written is ignorant but not actively vicious. An opportunity for a “teachable moment”.

Teachable moments only work when the person actually is willing to listen. But this is an ongoing issue with him. He keeps on with these clueless but trolly questions. It does not really seem to me that he’s interested in learning.

I find this one especially hard to believe is being asked in earnest. He’s claiming to be gay, but then is this unaware?

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/5 "2020-08-12T06:44:03Z")

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It reads like trolling. I can’t see any reason not to take it that way. I don’t believe it is cluelessness.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/6 "2020-08-12T07:18:37Z")

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Well I can certainly think of one reason why lesbians might be so mean to _him_.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/7 "2020-08-12T10:13:45Z")

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He’s a troll who uses his apparent cluelessness as a guise. Easier to not engage him.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/8 "2020-08-12T11:31:54Z")

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I can’t stand that guy as a poster. His OPs are idiotic and his responses are also stupid. I hate the way he phrases his posts, and how he ends his OPs with a bunch of smileys.

He’s absolutely useless as a poster. He never contributes anything to others’ threads and his own threads are idiotic.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/9 "2020-08-12T12:58:24Z")

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Not having read it, I don’t have an opinion on his lesbian thread.

But I have noticed he creates threads and doesn’t return to them. Which is one _indicia_ of a shit-stirrer.

It’s not proof positive, but it is something that impedes the flow of the conversation. IOW OPs like “Hey y’all, educate me about X and I’ll just lurk from now on.” aren’t very community spirited, even if the subject matter is benign. That’s not holding up your side of the conversation that we’re all here for.

And when the subject matter is not benign, it’s pretty much the definition of trollery: throw a bomb and gleefully watch the ensuing catfight among the crowd you attracted.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/10 "2020-08-12T13:16:37Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I thought that thread was spectacularily un-_woke_.
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> Bad form. Unkind. Thoughtless.

at least. he was maybe even mean.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/11 "2020-08-12T13:52:45Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I thought that thread was spectacularily un- _woke_ .

> [@LegendsofClear](#):
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> I would say the thread as written is ignorant but not actively vicious. An opportunity for a “teachable moment”.

I don’t know what to think about Jim\_B. in particular. But in general, I wish we were more welcoming toward “un-woke” people, as long as they’re not trolls and are at least open to learning and considering other points of view.

Fighting ignorance doesn’t mean driving away the ignorant people.

(Although, yes, I also realize there can be a conflict between being welcoming toward “un-woke” people and being welcoming toward those for whom their un-woke-ness might come across as hostile (misogyny, transphobla, etc.))

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/12 "2020-08-12T14:20:08Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Fighting ignorance doesn’t mean driving away the ignorant people.

Neither does it mean welcoming with open arms those who would deliberately spread ignorance.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/13 "2020-08-12T14:38:13Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Fighting ignorance doesn’t mean driving away the ignorant people.

He’s been on this board forever and (nearly?) all of his threads are idiotic. At some point, the ignorance becomes willful.

Has he ever posted in someone else’s thread? I guess he must have, but I don’t remember seeing it.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/14 "2020-08-12T14:54:43Z")

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_Mean Girls_ was a _lesbian_ movie? 😕

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/15 "2020-08-12T16:13:37Z")

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Well, there’s probably one online somewhere with that name that involves women in, uh, loving situations.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/16 "2020-08-12T17:29:51Z")

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I’m just getting irritated with his threads on weight loss. He says he’s obese and flirting with the diabeetus, asks for advice and help on coping with that then ignores the thread when nobody reassures him that OF COURSE he can eat whatever sugary crap he wants in any amount and be perfectly okay. It’s super annoying and I’m not participating any longer.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/17 "2020-08-12T17:48:38Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Has he ever posted in someone else’s thread?

This is the most annoying part. If the Discourse software is going to bark at me because I’ve replied to the same person 3 times in a 400 post thread, it could at least bark at someone for starting another thread when you haven’t posted in someone else’s in…months?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/18 "2020-08-12T17:51:15Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> I’m just getting irritated with his threads on weight loss. He says he’s obese and flirting with the diabeetus, asks for advice and help on coping with that then ignores the thread when nobody reassures him that OF COURSE he can eat whatever sugary crap he wants in any amount and be perfectly okay. It’s super annoying and I’m not participating any longer.

That was what put me off too.

Idjit or troll, or troll playing idjit or idjit playing at troll. Doesn’t much matter. I’m not one to use the system’s ignore /mute features, but my mental “not worth bothering with” filter is gaining a new member today.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/19 "2020-08-12T18:43:39Z")

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BTW, in almost 20 years here, this is my first pit thread. And I hope my last.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jim-b-pit/917858/20 "2020-08-12T18:46:38Z")

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Keep pitting people like this and we’ll start thinking you’re a lesbian.

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