# The kanicbird konundrum **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 22, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802 "2011-11-22T22:09:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/161 "2011-11-25T14:45:49Z")
I’m not sure asshole is in the DSM-V. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/162 "2011-11-25T14:47:41Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > I’m not sure asshole is in the DSM-V. Stick your nose into one and there will be. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/163 "2011-11-25T14:51:27Z")
c’mon man, that doesn’t even make any sense. My nose is an asshole? That’s fucking _weak_. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/164 "2011-11-25T15:01:27Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > My nose is an asshole? Hey, if it’s closely enough associated with one some of the essential nature is bound to rub off, which is why I don’t hang around you DSM freaks. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/165 "2011-11-25T15:02:52Z")
You got nuthin’ ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/166 "2011-11-25T15:03:45Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > You didn’t even know what that thing was till you googled it, idiot. Thanks to my major in college and my first career, I am painfully aware of the DSM in all its incarnations. And if I’d majored in Theology, I’d still be familiar because the DSM used to be trotted out regularly by lazy religious nutters as evidence that homosexuality reflects deviant behavior. Since the Vth revision, it appears that lazy religious nutters trot out the DSM as evidence that a dearth of religiosity within its covers indicates the sanity of believers. Here’s hoping that the 6th edition contains a chapter devoted to dissecting religious fervor and at least a footnote devoted to your brand of vacillating piety. (I know, I know, _you_ aren’t like the others; your particular subscribtion to Christianity is sane, logical, and provable, and lacking in any archaic ritual practices or beliefs.) You aren’t like kanicbird. You aren’t like kanicbird. You aren’t like kanicbird. Have you tried clicking your heels? ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/167 "2011-11-25T15:14:37Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > You got nuthin’ And you associate with people who demonize (oh, sorry… ‘diagnose’) everyone who is just a little different from what they think the mainstream should be. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/168 "2011-11-25T15:20:19Z")
How the Hell did you get the idea that I have religious piety? I haven’t been to church in years. However, I’m enough of a son of a bitch to call assholes out when they are being hateful disingenuous assholes. If douchebags use a thread like this, which is about a schizophrenic, to post passive aggresive insults on religion, I’m sure as Hell going to call them assholes. That’s my whole goddamn point. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/169 "2011-11-25T15:23:00Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > And you associate with people who demonize (oh, sorry… ‘diagnose’) everyone who is just a little different from what they think the mainstream should be. You’re not referring in any way to **kanicbird** as one who is “just a little different from the mainstream”, are you? ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/170 "2011-11-25T15:25:08Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > How the Hell did you get the idea that I have religious piety? I haven’t been to church in years. However, I’m enough of a son of a bitch to call assholes out when they are being hateful disingenuous assholes. If douchebags use a thread like this, which is about a schizophrenic, to post passive aggresive insults on religion, I’m sure as Hell going to call them assholes. > > That’s my whole goddamn point. Nah. Your point was to derail the thread and make it about you, and defend your religious belief while maligning **kanicbird** ’s as extreme and not representative of religious belief. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/171 "2011-11-25T15:31:03Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > If douchebags use a thread like this, which is about a schizophrenic, to post passive aggresive insults on religion, I’m sure as Hell going to call them assholes. Are you leaving out the very real possibility that the person that this thread is about is nothing but a shit-spewing troll? I’m not sure schizophrenia is something you can diagnose(let alone _treat_) over the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/172 "2011-11-25T15:45:25Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You’re not referring in any way to **kanicbird** as one who is “just a little different from the mainstream”, are you? No, I’m referring to things like ‘schizoid personality disorder’, or “You’re diseased because you don’t have as many friends as you should.” You know, that and attachment therapy. Things like that. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/173 "2011-11-25T15:50:20Z")
> [@Troppus](#): > > Nah. Your point was to derail the thread and make it about you, and defend your religious belief while maligning **kanicbird** ’s as extreme and not representative of religious belief. No, you idiots made it about me. I TOLD you to address **kanicbird**. You didn’t. You didn’t even comment on his post! You addressed me, you fucking morons! Fucking hell, man. I’m done for now. Except for this: **Czarcasm** , I AM leaving out the possibility that he’s a troll. I’m doing that on purpose with my posts. He very well might be a troll, I don’t know. I look at this way: If I ere on the side that he’s schizophrenic, and he’s a troll, then fuck that guy and we go our separate ways. If I ere on the side that he’s a troll and he’s schizophrenic, I might do damage. So looking at it that way, I’d rather pay the price of being the butt of a troll joke than paying the price of damaging somebody’s mental health. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/174 "2011-11-25T16:57:09Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > No, you idiots made it about me. I TOLD you to address **kanicbird**. You didn’t. You didn’t even comment on his post! You addressed me, you fucking morons! Fucking hell, man. You know, I _was_ waiting on a substantive response to the points raised in the essays I linked to, but as long as the members of the psychiatric community and their defenders act like this, I doubt that will happen in my lifetime. ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/175 "2011-11-25T17:01:26Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > No, you idiots made it about me. I TOLD you to address **kanicbird**. You didn’t. You didn’t even comment on his post! You addressed me, you fucking morons! Fucking hell, man. [DSM-V](http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/02/09/a-look-at-the-dsm-v-draft/) > [@](#): > > High emotional reactivity, high temper, emotional over-reactivity and affective lability. Now there’s a mouthful! What did I just say? The interpretation of this new proposed disorder for the DSM-V is basically for children who can’t control their temper (you probably know someone like this in your life) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/176 "2011-11-25T18:06:59Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > **Czarcasm** , I AM leaving out the possibility that he’s a troll. I’m doing that on purpose with my posts. He very well might be a troll, I don’t know. I look at this way: If I ere on the side that he’s schizophrenic, and he’s a troll, then fuck that guy and we go our separate ways. **If I ere on the side that he’s a troll and he’s schizophrenic, _I might do damage._** So looking at it that way, I’d rather pay the price of being the butt of a troll joke than paying the price of damaging somebody’s mental health. > > _emphasis-related coding added. **-kd99** _ :eek: Wait, so you ARE treating him over the internet? Probably not a good idea, man. And it’s _err_, not _ere_. “Ere” is a poetic word that means “before.” ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/177 "2011-11-25T20:03:42Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > My _fucking_ point is that there is a difference between run of the mill religion (not snake charming, faith “healing” bullshit, but every day religion) and schizophrenia, and anybody who can’t see that is an idiot. This may in fact be the stupidest thing I’ve ever read here. One does not “charm” the snakes-- They are _passed_. From the left to the right, as God wills it to be. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/178 "2011-11-25T20:10:17Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > :eek: > > Wait, so you ARE treating him over the internet? Probably not a good idea, man. > > And it’s _err_, not _ere_. “Ere” is a poetic word that means “before.” Trying to avoid saying things that might push a nutjob over the edge is not “treating.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/179 "2011-11-25T20:16:53Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Trying to avoid saying things that might push a nutjob over the edge is not “treating.” This particular nutjob is broadcasting from so far past the edge that he couldn’t find his way back with Google Maps, a team of Sherpa guides and Pocahontas herself. Trying to avoid pushing him over the edge is like trying to avoid making water wet. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802/180 "2011-11-25T20:21:52Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > This particular nutjob is broadcasting from so far past the edge that he couldn’t find his way back with Google Maps, a team of Sherpa guides and Pocahontas herself. Trying to avoid pushing him over the edge is like trying to avoid making water wet. Yeah, he’s past an edge all right. But there’s another edge this bozo could teeter over and on the other side is a mall full of dead shoppers with demon faces. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-kanicbird-konundrum/603802.md?page=10)