# The Killing -- new series on AMC

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 31, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691 "2011-03-31T22:16:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/282 "2011-06-20T04:50:36Z")

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I don’t remember when I’ve ever seen a show that had as much contempt for the audience as this piece of shit. The showrunner needs to be fired. I will not be watching anymore. I don’t give a shit who the killer is, and I’m not going to sit through another season of “herrings of the Week” to find out.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/283 "2011-06-20T04:54:51Z")

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Oof, I’ve mostly stayed on board with the show but that’s going to be hard to take.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/284 "2011-06-20T05:16:46Z")

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Next season? There’s a next season? Was I the only one who didn’t know that or was it a total surprise?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/285 "2011-06-20T05:19:32Z")

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Dirty fucking cocksuckers.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/286 "2011-06-20T05:27:15Z")

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Fuck you, AMC.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/287 "2011-06-20T05:36:08Z")

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What

the

eff.

Are we supposed to tune in next season to watch another X episodes as Linden solves the first season crime?

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/288 "2011-06-20T05:40:08Z")

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Fuck AMC. I will not be back next year. Piece of shit show with a piece of shit non-ending.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/289 "2011-06-20T06:18:01Z")

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I’ve enjoyed the show throughout and I’m not all that let down by the season finale. IMO, the voyage is more important than the destination. I kind of like that the cops are actually pretty incompetent; it’s a nice change from the unrealistic super genius cops on other shows.

I’m looking forward to season 2, but they’re going to have to expand from the “suspect of the week” ploy to keep it interesting.

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**Author:** ![rikc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c57346/32.png) [@rikc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rikc)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/290 "2011-06-20T06:32:52Z")

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Part of me finds it interesting that the show would take such a bold turn and fake out the audience so hard.

The other part of me is embarrassed that I defended this show to so many people. I’ll take a look next season, but most of the character arcs have resolved and that’s why I liked the show to begin with. Ehhhhhh

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**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/291 "2011-06-20T06:54:29Z")

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[http://fuckthekilling.com/](http://fuckthekilling.com/) \<- that about sums it up.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/292 "2011-06-20T11:09:35Z")

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So if it’s not Richmond, why did Gwen Eaton (his campaign adviser) say that he was out that night and returned soaking wet? Is she helping to frame him? Did he coincidentally get wet somehow (which would be very contrived)?

Why is Richmond receiving Orpheus’ emails?

Is Holder framing a guilty man?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/293 "2011-06-20T12:27:13Z")

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To be completely frank, the only reason – the only one – that I endured this loser show for 13 weeks has been this thread!

I’m done. Maybe next year we can have a thread about what we all are doing at that hour (those hours) when this thing is on. I’d be up for that.

For those who feel some bit of disappointment for its being away a whole year, or however long it will be, may I suggest another couple hours with: [Older Than America (2008)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0932669/) which I saw all the way to the end and kept saying to myself, “Why couldn’t _The Killing_ borrow some of this talent and creativity?”

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**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/294 "2011-06-20T13:20:17Z")

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Didn’t someone on this board say they were an extra and we were heading for a big twist?? Was that the twist? That we’d have to continue to wait to find out who the real killer is?

My thoughts : While I am frustrated that we don’t know who did it, I do still enjoy the show. I guess you just have to look at it from a different perspective. This isn’t CSI, where everything is sloved at the end of each episode, so I guess this show isn’t solved at the end of each season. I think most who are angry are the ones who were expecting all the answers to be revealed in the finale. The timeline of the show is only two weeks - some murder cases go on for months or even years.

I’m really curious as to how next season is going to pan out. Another whole season devoted to the same case? Maybe 4 episodes dedicated to Stan/Mitch’s divorce? Holder’s new agenda? Tom the billionaire wasn’t even mentioned in this episode…how can he collect on his 5 million if Richmond is in jail or dead??

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/295 "2011-06-20T13:25:34Z")

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So as not to hijack this thread, I’ve started another one to get input for a poll where voters can pick their most disappointing show. Input is definitely needed, since I can’t think of many shows or movies that were more of a letdown.

Please direct responses to that concern to that other thread and not to this one.

ETA:

> **[Help me come up with a list of TV shows (or movies) as disappointing as "The...](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=613170)**
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> Twin Peaks Any M. Night Shyamalan movie after The Sixth Sense I want to build a poll, but I’d like some input before doing so. If you actually like(d) The Killing then, obviously, this is not for you. 🙂

Help me come up with a list of TV shows (or movies) as disappointing as “The Killing”

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/296 "2011-06-20T13:27:45Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> So if it’s not Richmond, why did Gwen Eaton (his campaign adviser) say that he was out that night and returned soaking wet? Is she helping to frame him? Did he coincidentally get wet somehow (which would be very contrived)?
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> Why is Richmond receiving Orpheus’ emails?
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> Is Holder framing a guilty man?

Gwen might just be extremely pissed at him. And he could easily be a drowning obsessed whore monger without being the murderer, he could be orpheus and not have killed Rosie.

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**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/297 "2011-06-20T13:43:44Z")

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yep. i’m done.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/298 "2011-06-20T14:54:16Z")

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I missed the last two episodes. What the heck happened to piss everyone off?

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/299 "2011-06-20T14:55:31Z")

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I call bullshit on the whole “journey more important than the destination” bit. Not when your tagline and promotional posters are all “Who killed Rosie Larson.” In that case you’d expect to actually find out who killed Rosie Larson!

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/300 "2011-06-20T15:01:39Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> I missed the last two episodes. What the heck happened to piss everyone off?

What’s the worst possible thing that can happen at the end of a whodunit show?

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/301 "2011-06-20T15:05:10Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> What’s the worst possible thing that can happen at the end of a whodunit show?

They all did it? 🙂

I guess you’re saying that the question will remain unanswered. Did they close the case without finding the murderer, or in some other way declare the investigation over?

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