# The Killing -- new series on AMC **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 31, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691 "2011-03-31T22:16:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/141 "2011-05-10T15:34:29Z")
Sure things happened. They absolved one suspect and are now looking for a different one. And now, with the addition of the FBI, it’s looking like suspected terrorism is involved. That will likely also turn out to be a red herring, of course. I’m not even going to try to guess at this point who the killer was, since the writers are tossing those herrings left and right, making it pretty much impossible to figure it out from clues. Maybe it was Bob. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/142 "2011-05-10T15:40:14Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > This is the slowest moving show I have ever seen. Did \*anything \*happen during the last episode!? There was nothing new added to the plot except in the final second with the FBI agents. I hope that you’re not surprised by this. We knew this going in. The show is thirteen episodes long and follows one murder investigation one day at a time. I suppose that’s better than the Danish original, which was _twenty_ episodes long. I mean, if you read anything about the show when it started, you would have seen references to Rubicon. And yes, Law & Order, CSI and other similar shows move much more quickly, but perhaps a tad unrealistically. I mean, a typical episode of CSI seems to involve a murder, an investigation (including DNA analysis), interrogation and a confession all during a single overnight shift? So perhaps this show is more real, in particular, in showing the impact to the family and friends. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/143 "2011-05-10T15:40:15Z")
For my tastes the show is in a good spot on the schedule for me to continue watching. It’s beginning to look like AMC is trying too hard to match the hits they’ve had in _Mad Men_ and _Breaking Bad_ but with distinctly inferior products. _Rubicon_ is the only other one of their newer shows that I stuck with in spite of its weak production values. Perhaps a stronger cast might have worked, but I think the major flaw is in taking a one or two hour concept and trying to make a series out of it. The writing is weak and the acting doesn’t help it along. At this stage I honestly don’t care who killed the girl and I don’t have any interest in the politics. The only character I have any connection with emotionally is Linden and she’s just not enough to make the show fun. But with nothing else on at that hour of the week, I’ll watch it anyway. If it matters, I feel much the same toward _The Borgias_. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/144 "2011-05-10T20:46:36Z")
If the killer is the same as who it was in the Danish series, it’s going to make for a very anti-climactic finale. If anyone wants to know, the killer in the original series was that guy who works for the victim’s dad. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/145 "2011-05-10T21:01:12Z")
Well, I’ve enjoyed the first four episodes of this series, but it doesn’t look like AMC is in any hurry to put the newer ones on their web site. Shame. I suspect the Lieutenant cop is the killer, or at least involved. It makes zero sense to me how he’s hounding Linden to stay past her intended resignation to handle this case. He’s got a whole department, or at least precinct full of presumably competent cops who can take the case. It’s not like they’re never allowed to leave the job, surely police departments have protocols for transferring live cases when someone is poised to resign. I think he feels she’s someone he can manipulate if she gets too close to the truth, unlike, say, the irreverent new guy. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/146 "2011-05-11T02:01:25Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > If the killer is the same as who it was in the Danish series, it’s going to make for a very anti-climactic finale. If anyone wants to know, the killer in the original series was that guy who works for the victim’s dad. Haha, really? The boyfriend and I predicted this after watching the latest episode. I think we’ll still watch the series but it’s seriously dragging its heels. We might give The Borgias or Camelot a try. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/147 "2011-05-11T06:56:42Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I hope that you’re not surprised by this. We knew this going in. The show is thirteen episodes long and follows one murder investigation one day at a time. I suppose that’s better than the Danish original, which was _twenty_ episodes long. I mean, if you read anything about the show when it started, you would have seen references to Rubicon. Well you may have known this, but I knew nothing about it other than it was a series about a murder and is made by AMC who have had great successes with their other original shows. I have no idea what Rubicon is. I actually thought “The Killing” would be only 6 or 7 episodes, so yes finding out it is 13 is a bit of a surprise. ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/148 "2011-05-11T08:00:51Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > If the killer is the same as who it was in the Danish series, it’s going to make for a very anti-climactic finale. If anyone wants to know, the killer in the original series was that guy who works for the victim’s dad. One of the producers – or maybe the creator of the American version, I’m not sure – has said that the killer will be different in this version, although I wouldn’t be surprised if that was an attempt at misdirection. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/149 "2011-05-11T13:06:09Z")
Every episode is basically just sad family being sad, new suspect being introduced and old suspect getting crossed off, campaign guy continues to do worse. I don’t think i can handle any more of this show, i just want to know who did it at this point and move on. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/150 "2011-05-16T04:36:57Z")
Well, now they’re just getting silly. Linden hears Holder give testimony at NA and decides he’s okay. She’s apparently forgotten about the envelope full of cash. Her son is troubled enough to send crime scene photos to his friends, and instead of spending time with him, she goes off to listen to a wiretap. Stan takes it upon himself to clear out Rosie’s room. Does he not know his wife at all? Richmond is reminded of his loss and decides to play dirty. ::yawn:: The mayor doesn’t whisk his mistress off somewhere when the shit hits the fan, and the woman actually talks to reporters. Even if she’s only saying “Fuck off”, mistresses never talk to reporters, at least not until they’re promoting their book. The agent leaves Linden alone with the evidence. Linden assumes the tee shirt belongs to Rosie. Why the shirt? Why not something else? Are they ripping off _The Wire_? Is Rosie’s killer a valuable informant and the FBI’s protecting him? With Oakes pulling Linden off the case, it looks like that’s where they’re going. Whatever. I’ll keep watching, but I agree with Sepinwall. The writers haven’t given us enough information or background on any of the characters. At this point anyone could be the killer and I wouldn’t be surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/151 "2011-05-16T04:47:19Z")
I thought the scene with Holden at the NA meeting was actually pretty moving. The rest of the epsode was kind of meh. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/152 "2011-05-16T04:57:58Z")
Yeah, it was a good scene, but is it enough to make Linden suddenly trust him? Anyway, Bubbles’ scene in _The Wire_ was better. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/153 "2011-05-16T05:04:29Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Well, now they’re just getting silly. > > Linden hears Holder give testimony at NA and decides he’s okay. She’s apparently forgotten about the envelope full of cash. Are you talking about the cash Holder is giving to his sponsor so that he isn’t spending his entire paycheck on drugs? Linden heard him talking about that, didn’t she? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/154 "2011-05-16T07:27:11Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > The agent leaves Linden alone with the evidence. Yeah, I was :rolleyes: when that happened. “You need to look at this evidence? I don’t believe your story, so I’m going to leave you alone with the evidence while I go check your story out.” :smack: ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/155 "2011-05-16T15:10:15Z")
> [@Tarwater](#): > > Are you talking about the cash Holder is giving to his sponsor so that he isn’t spending his entire paycheck on drugs? Linden heard him talking about that, didn’t she? Is that the cash was about? I totally missed that. Okay, now I feel bad for bitching. But only about that part. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/156 "2011-05-16T15:14:13Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > If the killer is the same as who it was in the Danish series, it’s going to make for a very anti-climactic finale. If anyone wants to know, the killer in the original series was that guy who works for the victim’s dad. Heh. I’d guessed this as well. [SPOILER]Soft-spoken guy with a violent past, strange bond to the victim’s family and mysterious “sources” that we never hear or see? Yup. That’s our killer. Probably “feels bad” about it, too, hence the “helping.”[/SPOILER] ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/157 "2011-05-16T16:23:05Z")
Is Linden wearing the same sweater in every episode, or am I just imagining that? I’m still liking this show, although I do agree there are some plot holes that make you go :dubious:. Was there anyone who **didn’t** think Mom was going to leave the kids in the car as soon as she started it up with the garage door closed? ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/158 "2011-05-16T16:33:57Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Is Linden wearing the same sweater in every episode, or am I just imagining that? I think she has two gray sweaters, one plain and one with the white things around the neckline. They look like wool and they should be stinky by now. > [@](#): > > Was there anyone who **didn’t** think Mom was going to leave the kids in the car as soon as she started it up with the garage door closed? Yeah, who does that? Did anyone else think Stan was leering at the sister doing dishes? Maybe not a leer, but it was a tender look. And with the previously showing Mitch turning him down for sex, it looked like that’s where the scene was going. Man needs a hug. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/159 "2011-05-16T19:18:07Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Well, now they’re just getting silly. > > Linden hears Holder give testimony at NA and decides he’s okay. She’s apparently forgotten about the envelope full of cash. I thought finding out that her son was the leak and not him is what changed her mind. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691/160 "2011-05-16T19:45:00Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I thought finding out that her son was the leak and not him is what changed her mind. Probably. But who needs her more right now – her son or Holder? She’s reinforcing to her son that her job is the most important thing in her life. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-killing-new-series-on-amc/576691.md?page=9)