# The King of Pop Finally Cracks **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 7, 2002, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780 "2002-07-07T15:22:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/21 "2002-07-07T19:19:32Z")
At least he didn’t believe Skylab was going to fall on his head. No, wait, that was Liza Minelli, his CLOSE PERSONAL FRIEND! Well, when you hang out with people like that… ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/22 "2002-07-07T21:30:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pldennison \* > \*\* During this event, Jackson stated that Sony head Tommy Mottola (who, you’ll remember, was married to Mariah Carey) was a “racist,” was “devilish” and had referred to another, unidentified Sony artist with the “n-word.” > > “When you fight for me, you’re fighting for all black people, dead and alive,” Jackson said. Jackson is regularly seen in the company of such famous black people as Lisa Marie Presley, MacCauley Culkin, Lisa Minelli, Elizabeth Taylor and Marlon Brando. > > It couldn’t be the increasingly irrelevant (and in some cases just plain bad) music on the albums. Or the increasingly expensive music videos of greater and greater length. It couldn’t be the freakish personality cult, or the ego, or the treatment for the vitiligo. No, it’s because you’re black, and Sony therefore won’t spend promotional money on you. > > \*\* I have the flyer right here. Clearly, you don’t understand the depths of the conspiracy. Marrying Mariah Carey was all part of it – it says so right here: “Lets not forget what they did to **Mariah Carey** , don’t let the same happen to a legend like Jackson.” (C&P transcribed as typed). See – clearly, Tommy Mottola is involved in a massive conspiracy to take a semi-talented Long Island bimbo and make her wealthy beyond the dreams of averice just because she’s a piece of ass willing to marry him. I mean, to cheat her. Or something. And Tommy’s only mad because Jackson is trying to _liberate_ black people such as Destiny’s Child, Toni Braxton, Jennifer Lopez and more. See, they apparently have songs in the ATV catalog, and Jackson wants to break up the JV with Sony, so Mottola is torpedoing _Invincible_ to punish Jackson. And the bad music? Yep, Sony’s fault again. See, the bad first single was leaked to two radio stations, so he had to release that one first, even though he planned to release the other, better single. Oh, and Sony covered up whatever 9/11 pap he produced (Dear Sony, thankyouthankyouthankyou…). So see, you just don’t recognize the true face of conspiracy. And in closing, if I could have typed any of this with a straight face, you’d be looking at the 2002 World Championship of Poker Texas Hold’um Champion. But that’s what the flyer says. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/23 "2002-07-07T21:51:56Z")
> [@](#): > > "Lets not forget what they did to Mariah Carey, … Ohhhhh, I see, then _Glitter_ DIDN’T suck. I get it now. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/24 "2002-07-07T21:55:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by manhattan \* > \*\*So see, you just don’t recognize the true face of conspiracy. > > \*\* Of course we can’t - it’s had sooooo much plastic surgury, even the forensic sculpter would have a difficult time. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/25 "2002-07-07T21:57:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*Michaels Jackson’s black? \*\* My thoughts exactly. Didn’t someone once find an animated gif that shows the changes in his face over the years? It was like watching a horror movie. ---
**Author:** ![Motate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@Motate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motate)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/26 "2002-07-07T22:10:32Z")
I saw that gif and thought the same thing. He has turned himself into a freak. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/27 "2002-07-07T22:26:47Z")
I am looking for that gif, still haven’t found it. But I found [this.](http://www.mitch5597.freeserve.co.uk/images/Transformation.jpg) It links from [this page.](http://www.mitch5597.freeserve.co.uk/photo.htm) ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/28 "2002-07-07T22:42:15Z")
**monstro** , I was trying to be generous, because I didn’t want to just bring up the plastic surgery and have someone reply, “But he has vitiligo!” Since it’s out of the way now, yeah, the plastic surgery is out of control. He’s at least as bad as the cat guy, or the woman who made herself look like Barbie. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/29 "2002-07-07T22:43:26Z")
Did Al Sharpton take on this worthy cause before or after he ended the strife between Pakistan and India? ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/30 "2002-07-07T22:47:27Z")
OK. That didn’t take long. Google comes through again: [Animated Flash Movie of Jackson’s Transformation.](http://www.doneanddusted.co.uk/nick/Movie2.html) (scary) ---
**Author:** ![SirRay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@SirRay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirRay)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/31 "2002-07-07T23:24:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by yosemitebabe \* > \*\*OK. That didn’t take long. Google comes through again: [Animated Flash Movie of Jackson’s Transformation.](http://www.doneanddusted.co.uk/nick/Movie2.html) (scary) \*\* Holy mackeral, Andy! In the last image he IS Elizabeth Taylor! ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/32 "2002-07-07T23:25:34Z")
He’s the Elvis of our times. I can’t waith til he gets fat and starts shooting TVs and shit. ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/33 "2002-07-08T02:09:11Z")
$5 million to make an album? $25 million to promote it? Are these numbers correct? I can understand spending $25 on promotions. That’s a bottomless pit if you let it be. BUT $5 MILLION TO RECORD IT??? That’s just nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Bob\_Scene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Bob\_Scene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Scene)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/34 "2002-07-08T02:22:12Z")
I just turned on the news on TV and I happened to have the closed captioning on. The anchor, referring to this story, said, “Coming up next: A different kind of tune for Michael Jackson.” The closed captioning read, “Coming up next: A different kind of **tomb** for Michael Jackson.” Maybe so. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/35 "2002-07-08T02:59:05Z")
The question now is whether or not the additional free publicity he has generated through his allegations will translate into improved sales for his otherwise flopped album. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/36 "2002-07-08T03:04:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Seven \* > \*\*$5 million to make an album?..That’s just nuts. \*\* Back in 1980, Fleetwood Mac spent over $1,000,000 of Warner Brothers Records’ money to record _Tusk_ and it was a double album. It ended up selling about 2 million copies. At that time, it was one of the most expensive albums ever made. I’m not sure how much that would be in today’s dollars though. ---
**Author:** ![tavalla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tavalla/32/89_2.png) [@tavalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tavalla)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/37 "2002-07-08T03:32:37Z")
I saw this story on last night’s news. You should _never_ laugh that hard with a mouthful of coffee. Sincerely. It’s messy. Michael, your album didn’t sell because of Sony’s alleged “underpromotion”. The reason it didn’t sell was because it sucked hard enough to pull a basketball through a garden hose. If anything, Sony _over_-promoted it. It was made out to be the musical second coming and, when we heard the same old shit, we turned the CD into a drinks coaster and warned all our friends not to waste their money. Memo to whoever’s advising Michael Jackson at the moment: you are not doing the guy any favours. ---
**Author:** ![johnson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@johnson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnson)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/38 "2002-07-08T03:35:39Z")
Hey, it costs something to rent out USC’s marching band. And, you have to admit, _Tusk_ is one of the coolest songs ever. Well, one of Fleetwood Mac’s coolest songs ever. ---
**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/39 "2002-07-08T03:40:23Z")
The poor crazy fellow has just never been quite together ever since that one unfortunate video-filming incident. You know, the one where he got confused and mixed-up on his choreography, and accidentally groped and fondled a window before smashing his crotch with a crowbar. ---
**Author:** ![lenin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@lenin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lenin)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780/40 "2002-07-08T03:41:23Z")
When I first saw this title, I had assumed that the massive amount of plastic surgery Michael Jackson had undergone suddenly cracked apart and his freakishly sub-human face shattered, reveiling a black man. No such luck, I guess. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-king-of-pop-finally-cracks/117780.md?page=3)