# The lack of Trump craziness this week is disturbing **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 18, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206 "2016-08-18T20:25:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/41 "2016-08-19T14:59:06Z")
I hope he drops a big one today in his speech in Dimondale (near Lansing) Michigan. The national spotlight is fun if fleeting, but I hope our local Trumpians don’t look as brain-dead as their kinfolk around the country. I’m just glad the site is nowhere near my commute so I won’t have traffic to worry about. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/42 "2016-08-19T16:00:49Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > i’ll check back in w/ NYC when it starts to matter… never ! :rolleyes: New York State, not just NYC. And, the only reason it’s really noteworthy is that Trump has repeatedly (and, clearly, delusionally) said that he believes he can win in New York. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/43 "2016-08-19T16:19:42Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > New York State, not just NYC. And, the only reason it’s really noteworthy is that Trump has repeatedly (and, clearly, delusionally) said that he believes he can win in New York. Yep, it is really sad in Trump’s case when even supporters of Trump that rely a lot on ignorant talking points actually know better than Trump does about what to do regarding NY in an election. AFAIK Trump is saddling the RNC with the task to develop the ground game in NY; because, “aw shucks”, Trump does really think that all minorities and women love him. Fine with me because that means less money for other races that the RNC could fund. And a nice demonstration of the ongoing Trump craziness. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/44 "2016-08-19T17:01:41Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > i’ll check back in w/ NYC when it starts to matter… never ! :rolleyes: I am really really really curious to see how you’ll act when Trump loses in November. Alas, you’ll probably disappear and never come back. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/45 "2016-08-19T21:15:00Z")
RCP average has narrowed a point or two recently, now 6.0 among head to heads, 5.5 among polls allowing minor candidates. I think it just wastes electrons when people argue by referring to individual polls. A particular poll might have some interesting internals or something, and all the polls avg’d could be off\*, but there’s almost by definition no way to know that or which direction if so. Trump could finally start focusing more on running a real campaign (not just rallies and speaking off the cuff at each one with whatever comes into his head, let alone Tweeting late at night over various slights by various extraneous people like those in his own party, particular media people etc). It’s really just speculating to say he absolutely can’t do that. The question is whether it’s enough to actually win, not just get closer. \*Obama did more 2% points better in the actual election than the final RCP average, though many Romney supporters said/hoped/wished the polls were understating Romney’ position rather than Obama’s. It doesn’t necessarily mean the polls now are tilted against Clinton though just because she and Obama are from the same party, the situation could be different this time. No solid reason to think they’re tilted against Trump either though. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/46 "2016-08-19T22:27:08Z")
> [@Corry\_El](#): > > Trump could finally start focusing more on running a real campaign (not just rallies and speaking off the cuff at each one with whatever comes into his head, let alone Tweeting late at night over various slights by various extraneous people like those in his own party, particular media people etc). It’s really just speculating to say he absolutely can’t do that. The question is whether it’s enough to actually win, not just get closer. Him getting it together was a possibility - but much less of one now that he has chosen people with not the slightest interest in him being presidential and making policy points, let alone running a reasonable campaign. Maybe after the next shakeup. ---
**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/47 "2016-08-19T22:46:35Z")
Trump’s pitch to black voters: -Give Trump a chance. -It will be amazing. -What the hell do you have to lose? > **[Trump pitches black voters: 'What the hell do you have to lose?' | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/19/politics/donald-trump-african-american-voters/index.html)** > > Donald Trump on Friday continued his outreach to African-American voters, presenting them with a stark question: "What the hell do you have to lose?" ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/48 "2016-08-19T22:51:02Z")
> [@YogSothoth](#): > > I am really really really curious to see how you’ll act when Trump loses in November. Alas, you’ll probably disappear and never come back. ☹ better question is " what will you do if Trump wins " ? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/49 "2016-08-19T22:58:54Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > New York State, not just NYC. And, the only reason it’s really noteworthy is that Trump has repeatedly (and, clearly, delusionally) said that he believes he can win in New York. he’ll prolly continue w/ that line. gotta be positive. highly unlikely … but a radical Islamic terror attack in NY could change things too. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/50 "2016-08-19T23:36:30Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > better question is " what will you do if Trump wins " ? :rolleyes: Of course, deflect the question. Classic Trump tactic. Why don’t you answer the question and maybe I will answer yours after? ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/51 "2016-08-19T23:46:19Z")
> [@YogSothoth](#): > > Of course, deflect the question. Classic Trump tactic. Why don’t you answer the question and maybe I will answer yours after? if Trump loses i’ll still be around. if Mccain & Romney loses didn’t change me… a Trump loss surely won’t. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/52 "2016-08-20T00:09:57Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > he’ll prolly continue w/ that line. > gotta be positive. > > highly unlikely … but a radical Islamic terror attack in NY could change things too. What a cheerful, positive, wish! [sarcasm] Like past fellows that wanted to see a palace of government burn to get their political wishes. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/53 "2016-08-20T05:11:15Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > He isn’t convicted of being a contempt of court, he’s convicted of holding a court in contempt. He’s a convicted contemnor, which should be a word in more common currency. > > Anyway, I agree with you, but, given who Trump associates with when he’s trying to be a Big Man in Politics, I honestly think he’d need a real change of heart to sincerely repent of standing by Arpaio. Even if you buy the notion that he’s only in it for the TV and book deals he’ll get afterwords, you don’t need to salt your closest staff with Neo-Nazi and alt-right figures to sell fear to the fearful. You can stop a few steps short of merging with Breitbart and still sell warmed-over conspiracy theory pabulum to that crowd. > > Let me put it more plainly: Trump is associating too closely with the real lunatics of the world for someone who’s just putting on an act. The least hypothesis now is that he actually believes this shit. Convicted Contemnor, I learned something then, but leave it to Arpaio to reach for the [del]gold[/del] conviction type that he mostly deserves. > **[Arizona News](https://www.azfamily.com/news/)** > > Arizona Breaking news, local stories, and On Your Side investigations from the state’s largest television newsroom. > [@](#): > > PHOENIX (KPHO/KTVK) Aug 19, 2016 / > > A federal judge on Friday issued a decision recommending criminal prosecution of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio for contempt of court in a racial profiling case. > > Arpaio and his second-in-command were found in civil contempt two months ago for intentionally ignoring an order to stop their immigration patrols. They now face the possibility of a criminal contempt case that could result in fines or jail time. > > Arpaio and Jerry Sheridan were previously found to have made several intentional misstatements of facts last year during their contempt hearings. > > The two deliberately misstated facts when denying that the agency had conducted an investigation of the judge, U.S. District Judge Murray Snow found. Real lunatic buddies of Trump indeed… Also criminal in nature. ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/54 "2016-08-20T16:10:31Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Him getting it together was a possibility - but much less of one now that he has chosen people with not the slightest interest in him being presidential and making policy points, let alone running a reasonable campaign. > Maybe after the next shakeup. Of the two new people he brought in, Conway is a pretty conventional GOP political operative, was with a Cruz PAC most recently. The Breitbart guy isn’t. So again seems to be just speculation to say Trump can’t run a real campaign. ‘Reasonable’ not to quibble too much about semantics, would seem to open the possibility of having positions you think are ‘reasonable’. I’m not talking about that, but for example just having a message each day or group of contiguous days and sticking to it. Or, going to Louisiana to ‘show you care’. Again, if you hate Trump the latter is just viewed as dishonest, which maybe it is. However it is a regular campaign. Just holding rallies in random places (Connecticut he virtually can’t win, Mississippi he virtually can’t lose) and speaking off the cuff, saying you’re not running against Hillary but the press, talking about losing…is not. And I’d say on the recent evidence he’s running more of a regular campaign since the shake up. And I believe that will show up in tighter polls. But again ultimately from Trump’s POV\* he doesn’t have to be closer, he has to be ahead. That I doubt he can achieve just by sticking to the past week’s MO. He needs big debate victories (unlikely IMO) or a some big external Trump-friendly event (pure speculation). And fair enough, it’s not in any way certain he can continue running a regular campaign rather than back to multi-day stories about some _extraneous_ ridiculous thing he said. \*the elected GOP at this point is probably fine with a fairly close Trump loss, current polls imply some down ballot damage but not a catastrophe, and if he can narrow it a couple of % points I think most of elected GOP would gladly take that at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/55 "2016-08-20T18:15:23Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Did I miss anything? > > Did he say any non-crazy stuff to anybody? > > Did somebody glue his mouth shut? > > Or {shudder} is he actually demonstrating self-discipline? Did you not see where he visited flood-ravaged Louisiana and personally delivered much needed stocks of Play-Doh? [http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/donald-trump-goes-to-louisiana-flood-zone-spends-49-seconds-handing-out-play-doh-to-kids-leaves/25753/](http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/donald-trump-goes-to-louisiana-flood-zone-spends-49-seconds-handing-out-play-doh-to-kids-leaves/25753/) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/56 "2016-08-20T18:20:23Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > if Trump loses i’ll still be around. > if Mccain & Romney loses didn’t change me… a Trump loss surely won’t. You joined in 2016. You were not around back then. Unless you are admitting to being a sock of another poster… ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/57 "2016-08-20T18:25:37Z")
I don’t see any reason to get worried just yet. It’s not as if Trump hasn’t went silent before. He still winds up saying something. We’ve got to just keep giving him things to say. Make him want to lash out. Trump courted authoritarians, and now he’s well known for saying anti-military things. I wouldn’t be concerned at all unless he flat out refutes those. Not just an idle “I said some things I didn’t mean.” Authoritarians love our military. The ads write themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/58 "2016-08-20T18:30:56Z")
I’m waiting for him to say something about Jesus. “I prefer my messiahs to be winners. Winners don’t go and get themselves crucified. Stupid loser Jesus.” ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/59 "2016-08-20T20:15:39Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I’m waiting for him to say something about Jesus. > > “I prefer my messiahs to be winners. Winners don’t go and get themselves crucified. Stupid loser Jesus.” We’re repeating each other: > [@Donald Trump lie of the day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/29): > > Of course… That Pilate guy, he’s a winner. He runs things. He crucifies losers, really… he absolutely crucifies them. And he has the biggest, cleanest hands in the world. It’s amazing how clean his hands are. > > Winners don’t get crucified. Winners stand there, look at the whole world, all four corners, and they make a deal. They make tell best deal, and they run things. That’s how it works. They make a deal with the foreign prince, who, by the way, is great at deals, he makes amazing deals, he’s embarrassing us, he makes a deal with this prince, who might be Muslim, and he becomes king. No crucifixion. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206/60 "2016-08-20T22:35:28Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > We’re repeating each other: I like yours better! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lack-of-trump-craziness-this-week-is-disturbing/763206.md?page=4)