# The lance strongarm transgender bathroom and poly marriage extravaganza thread! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 5, 2016, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244 "2016-04-05T11:31:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/421 "2016-04-18T18:09:15Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Do you believe a majority of women would be comfortable with unisex bathrooms? Or men? It’s a simply observation, nothing more. Woman here who’s completely comfortable with unisex bathrooms. As long as there’s a stall door to give everyone some privacy I don’t really give a shit sorry about who else is in there. Some people I’ve talked to find it odd because it isn’t the norm, but I haven’t met anyone who had a problem with it. If I saw a man in the ladies’ room I might go :dubious: but I wouldn’t challenge him or chase him out. I’d wonder if the mens’ room was out of order, or if he went in the wrong door by accident, or if he was there to help out a wife/daughter/whoever who was disabled or something. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/422 "2016-04-18T18:37:24Z")
BTW, I have been also asked by men when I have been in the men’s bathroom. A quick “sorry, wrong one”, or “ladies’ broken” and they shrug it off. They never freak out or wonder if I am up to no good. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/423 "2016-04-18T18:40:26Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > We’re beginning to wonder what the hell is going on in men’s rooms that y’all are so fearful of rape and penises, though. This! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/424 "2016-04-18T18:40:57Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > BTW, I have been also asked by men when I have been in the men’s bathroom. A quick “sorry, wrong one”, or “ladies’ broken” and they shrug it off. They never freak out or wonder if I am up to no good. What? Nobody cried out “OMG! A vag_I_na!!” and ran for the police? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/425 "2016-04-18T18:47:09Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What? Nobody cried out “OMG! A vag_I_na!!” and ran for the police? I avoid inspecting their penises and they refrain from peeping under the stall door. I never caught sight of a stray penis. Tragedy avoided. I am starting to think that you guys are just afraid of us women sneaking into your bathrooms and laughing at your, erm, inadequacy. It’s not about protecting us from pervy men, it’s about protecting you men from our mockery, isn’t it? Confess. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/426 "2016-04-18T18:55:28Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Yes. I’ve said this dozens of times, by the way. Over and over again I’ve said that the majority prefer gendered restrooms. This has been a key part of my position, in fact - that this is the best reason why we will probably continue with gendered restrooms for the medium term. > > Your continuous denigration of my honesty is really a shame. I’ve tried my best to answer your questions at every turn, but because I approach this very differently than you, you won’t accept that I’m answering as I really believe. > > I started this thread to have an honest discussion. I really am stating what I believe. I take your word that you are too. It’s a real shame that you can’t seem to accept that there is a chance I’m doing the same. Why is it so hard to accept that someone thinks differently about this? Why does this different approach cause you such problems? Quoted for fucking truth. **lance** , if ten people tell you you’re drunk, lie down. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/427 "2016-04-18T20:50:17Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Yes. I’ve said this dozens of times, by the way. Over and over again I’ve said that the majority prefer gendered restrooms. Yes, you have. You’ve dodged on other issues, perhaps, but fair is fair - you’ve given me a straight answer on that. Thank you. Others haven’t though - look at the other comments I’m getting now. I am asking for a straight answer from them, not you. Don’t say I won’t accept it from you. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/428 "2016-04-18T20:56:03Z")
You people are completely avoiding the truth. I didn’t say everyone would freak out or run from the premises. I simply said most prefer that men not be in the women’s room. The idea that most American women are just fine with men using the lady’s room, any man at any time for any reason, is nuts, and you all know it. Imagine this - the men’s room where you work breaks down and can’t be used without big repairs. To save money, the boss says “from now on, men can just use the women’s room, permanently.” Are you saying no women, or men, would complain? Honestly? Reality is real. Pretending people don’t have feelings - strong feelings - about bathroom and locker room privacy is silly. You are the ones trying to shape facts to fit your agendas. I’m just proving how far people like you will go to avoid simple facts. I’m not even talking about transgender issues or trying to argue against transgender rights, which I support. I’m not advocating for, or against, unisex bathrooms or locker rooms either. I’m just amused by how silly people will get over something so simple as an observation about basic social norms. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/429 "2016-04-18T20:58:00Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > Women may prefer that men not be in the women’s room. Tada! That’s all I was saying. Nothing about transgender laws or fear or any of that. Just a simple statement. So you agree with me. Was that soooooo fucking hard? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/430 "2016-04-18T20:58:36Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Yes, you have. > > You’ve dodged on other issues, perhaps, but fair is fair - you’ve given me a straight answer on that. Thank you. > > Others haven’t though - look at the other comments I’m getting now. I am asking for a straight answer from them, not you. Don’t say I won’t accept it from you. Why do you insist on continuing with the dodging accusation? Why is that a better explanation than that I’m honestly answering the best I’m able, and we just approach it very differently? So if you’re asking me not to say something false about you, then please don’t say false things about me. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/431 "2016-04-18T21:00:15Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Yes, you have. > > You’ve dodged on other issues, perhaps, but fair is fair - you’ve given me a straight answer on that. Thank you. > > Others haven’t though - look at the other comments I’m getting now. I am asking for a straight answer from them, not you. Don’t say I won’t accept it from you. What is this, a Monty Python sketch? “Thou mayest not pass until thou answerest The Question!” Sorry, bucky-this conversation is moving on even if everyone here doesn’t answer your fucking question to your fucking satisfaction. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/432 "2016-04-18T21:01:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Why do you insist on continuing with the dodging accusation? Why is that a better explanation than that I’m honestly answering the best I’m able, and we just approach it very differently? Sorry, by “yes, you have” I meant “yes, you have given a straight answer.” I give you credit on this particular question. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/433 "2016-04-18T21:02:20Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What is this, a Monty Python sketch? “Thou mayest not pass until thou answerest The Question!” > Sorry, bucky-this conversation is moving on even if everyone here doesn’t answer your fucking question to your fucking satisfaction. You don’t control the conversation any more than I do. Bucky. I’ll ask as many questions I want to. If you don’t like them, you can move on. Bye. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/434 "2016-04-18T21:03:31Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Sorry, by “yes, you have” I meant “yes, you have given a straight answer.” I give you credit on this particular question. And in the previous paragraph you again accused me of dodging on other issues. I’m answering honestly as best I can, so please stop accusing me of dodging. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/435 "2016-04-18T21:03:43Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Face it, **Lance** , this has nothing to do with helping women-you are showing us your own personal prejudices, and you are trying to dress it up as “Societal Concern”. What exactly do you think my personal prejudices are? Go ahead, tell me. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/436 "2016-04-18T21:04:52Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > And in the previous paragraph you again accused me of dodging on other issues. I’m answering honestly as best I can, so please stop accusing me of dodging. I’ll speak no more of it as long as you don’t accuse me of not accepting a straight answer. Deal? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/437 "2016-04-18T21:05:13Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > You don’t control the conversation any more than I do. Bucky. I’ll ask as many questions I want to. If you don’t like them, you can move on. Bye. I hope you’ve got a nice, warm place to stick that “bye”-if not, I’ve got a suggestion or two, because I’m not going anywhere on your sayso. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/438 "2016-04-18T21:05:14Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > I’ll speak no more of it as long as you don’t accuse me of not accepting a straight answer. Deal? Sure. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/439 "2016-04-18T21:05:58Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What is this, a Monty Python sketch? “Thou mayest not pass until thou answerest The Question!” Oh, yeah, forgot–can you answer the question? Thought so. I know why you are making excuses for not answering. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/440 "2016-04-18T21:12:58Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Oh, yeah, forgot–can you answer the question? > > Thought so. > > I know why you are making excuses for not answering. That place where you’re storing that “bye”? I hope there’s room for your “Question”, also. Not your thread to be demanding that people jump through hoops. Not your thread to be making any demands and all, in fact. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244.md?page=23)