# The lance strongarm transgender bathroom and poly marriage extravaganza thread!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 5, 2016, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244 "2016-04-05T11:31:02Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/549 "2016-05-24T17:07:27Z")

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Continuing here from another thread:

> [@Political fallout of transgender bathroom issue](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-fallout-of-transgender-bathroom-issue/754775/383):
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> But you still don’t get this.
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> If someone decides they don’t prefer it, they “ruin it” for everyone else. In other words, if women prefer to pee only with people who look like other women, and a woman like Aniya Wolf uses the women’s room, all the other women have to accept it. Same goes for any other scenario involving preference for sex, or gender, or whatever - if one person prefers something else, their preference (by the presence), overrides that of everyone else’s.
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> If one person prefers unisex restrooms - and uses the restroom that doesn’t correspond to his gender - then by doing so, he or she turns that restroom into a unisex restroom for everyone else in it, just by using it.
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> I’m not complaining about this, just pointing out the folly of pretense.

None of this is new. All of this could have occurred prior to trans issues becoming prominent.

That’s why it’s not a folly – you haven’t brought any new issues to light. All of this was already possible, and I see no reason to believe why it would be any more likely or common with trans rights being protected.

What I don’t get is what trans protection allows that wasn’t already possible before. People could be deceitful before and people could be deceitful now. People could choose to ignore practice and custom before, whether in disguise or not, and people could choose to do it now. People could get upset by someone they don’t think is being appropriate (say, a very masculine cis woman, or vice versa) in the past, and people can do so now. People could get upset about Aniya Wolf using the bathroom (either bathroom) before and they can do so now, or they can choose to not worry about it, as they also could have in the past.

There’s nothing new that I can see, except that trans people now have a hope of being protected by law and practice.

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