# The lance strongarm transgender bathroom and poly marriage extravaganza thread! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 5, 2016, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244 "2016-04-05T11:31:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 580
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244/580 "2016-06-02T17:12:53Z")
Moving back to this thread: > [@The Right Wing Paranoids Are Right Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/455): > > Transgender people have. They are the ones who want to use a certain restroom based on gender. They want to safely use the bathroom. If bathrooms are gendered, then that means they want to use the one that matches their identity. Show me any trans people that you’ve argued with that specifically have argued that gendered bathrooms should be preserved. > [@](#): > > So a transgender woman shouldn’t be forced to use a restroom full of men now, but it’s okay if she is forced to do so because there’s no women’s-only room for her to choose. What? What does this have to do with what I said? > [@](#): > > Okay, so here’s the deal. > > Trans people, at least those who others know (or even suspect - cisgender people have already been targeted just for looking like they might be transgender) may face just as much, or even MORE, threat by using the bathroom of their gender rather than their sex these days. The rightwing fanatics are after them now. So if it’s about protecting them, that solution isn’t necessarily going to work either. And if protecting them is the highest priority, how could you possibly oppose, say, the suggestion that we offer special restrooms just for them? I don’t believe that this is accurate. Further, publicly outing themselves by using a separate bathroom for trans people seems _far more likely_ to attract violence and threats than using the one that matches their identity. The safest option seems clearly to me to be allowing them to use the bathroom matching their identity, which doesn’t require them to publicly out themselves every time they pee. > [@](#): > > I’m not talking about soon. It won’t happen overnight. But my point is that it won’t even matter. If you can’t know what gender or sex other people in the restroom are - because they are either transgender, or they simply look like the opposite gender from their sex but don’t identify with it - then what’s the point? Why even have gendered restrooms, or sexed restrooms, or whatever? That process could happen rather quickly now that transgender people have opened the door to it. And that’s a GOOD thing. Maybe, or maybe not, but I don’t care. Considering that people could always be deceptive, and there was never verification, and people used the bathroom for their gender identity _because they preferred to_ as opposed to because they were required to, then I think it’s likely to stick around for quite a while. This changes nothing with regards to deception, or appearances, or enforcement. All of this was possible before and will continue to be possible. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lance-strongarm-transgender-bathroom-and-poly-marriage-extravaganza-thread/751244)._