# The last Bush Budget was 2009
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-bush-budget-was-2009/599191
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [October 10, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-bush-budget-was-2009/599191 "2011-10-10T16:24:02Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-bush-budget-was-2009/599191/1 "2011-10-10T16:24:02Z")
Just ranting here but frequently when a Republican is on CSPAN, they claim that Obama took a $500 billion dollar deficit in 2008 and turned it into a $1.5 trillion dollar deficit in 2010.
The 2009 budget year started October 1, 2008, requested by George W Bush and passed in 2008. [2009 United States federal budget - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_United_States_federal_budget)
Am I missing something because the folks on CSPAN (or any other network for that matter don’t seem to call any of them on this.
I’m not saying that Bush could have avoided the deficit but the effort to make it sound like Obama has increased spending by a trillion dollars his first year in office is fucking ridiculous but people are buying it.
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### Author:  [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-bush-budget-was-2009/599191/2 "2011-10-10T18:48:03Z")
The only thing you’re missing is that no one wants to admit that the President is not responsible for every single thing that occurs from the moment he is sworn in until his successor is. If we did that, then we’d have to admit that trying to analyze the president’s personality would be pointless in the greater scheme of things, and political reporting would be completely unlike _Entertainment Tonight._ An entire industry, employing thousands of people, would be rendered irrelevant, and the news would anger and confuse most Americans, at least in the opinion of the people producing the current crap.
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### Author:  [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-bush-budget-was-2009/599191/3 "2011-10-10T18:52:50Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> I’m not saying that Bush could have avoided the deficit but the effort to make it sound like Obama has increased spending by a trillion dollars his first year in office is fucking ridiculous but people are buying it.
So what? When you’re POTUS, you take the good with the bad. That means you get credit for things that happened during your tenure that you didn’t cause, and you get blamed for things that happened during your tenure that you didn’t cause. It’s nothing new.
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### Author:  [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-bush-budget-was-2009/599191/4 "2011-10-11T02:50:34Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> So what? When you’re POTUS, you take the good with the bad. That means you get credit for things that happened during your tenure that you didn’t cause, and you get blamed for things that happened during your tenure that you didn’t cause. It’s nothing new.
Well, there’s nothing new about any other kind of lying, either, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t call out a liar when you hear one. Which is exactly what the OP is doing.
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### Author:  [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2011, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-bush-budget-was-2009/599191/5 "2011-10-11T11:37:18Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> So what?
Well, for starters, it’s a clearly inaccurate way to assess a president’s effectiveness.
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### Author:  [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-bush-budget-was-2009/599191/6 "2011-10-11T21:48:50Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> So what? When you’re POTUS, you take the good with the bad. That means you get credit for things that happened during your tenure that you didn’t cause, and you get blamed for things that happened during your tenure that you didn’t cause. It’s nothing new.
Where can I read your rant about how Bush’s incompetence allowed this country to suffer through its worst terrorist attack in its history, turned Clinton’s $500 billion surplus to a debt of trillions, attacked the wrong country responsible for 9/11, made Americans less safe by encouraging worldwide extremism, and violated the law by torturing people? If its anything like your anti-Obama rants, they must be great!
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### Author:  [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-bush-budget-was-2009/599191/7 "2011-10-11T22:46:29Z")
This is why OMG is a conservative. He doesn’t understand the issues and handwaves away facts instead of altering his stances.
It’s not even funny, it’s uncomfortable seeing him try.
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### Author:  [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-bush-budget-was-2009/599191/8 "2011-10-12T04:48:43Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> So what? When you’re POTUS, you take the good with the bad. That means you get credit for things that happened during your tenure that you didn’t cause, and you get blamed for things that happened during your tenure that you didn’t cause. It’s nothing new.
So man-up. Let’s hear you give Obama some credit. Averting a total financial melt-down, saving the auto industry, preventing any major terrorist attacks, dealing with a deficit that was handed to him, getting the banks to pay back their TARP loans, keeping inflation low, dealing with the Europeans and their debt crisis, not interfering with Mideastern dictators that their citizens want to and need to overthrow, improving the international perception and influence of the USA, not nuking a Congress which is populated by mostly blithering idiots that hate democracy and America because the principles of America interfere with their quest to get reelected.
So man-up OBC, grow some balls and give some credit where it is due. Or do you just want to be a whiney malcontent that thinks that complaining far from reality is some kind of solution.
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### Author:  [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-bush-budget-was-2009/599191/9 "2011-10-12T17:58:41Z")
Wow - simplistic reporting! I am shocked to find that.
What is even better is that we are calling these Bush or Obama budgets, without noting which party controlled either the House or the Senate, how many voted for or against, and how many passes it took to get that particular budget done.
Then add in what percent of the budget is already fixed, and how much of the actual budget changes.
Nah - that takes work. FAR more fun to just blame the guy in the seat.
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### Author:  [@nate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nate)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-bush-budget-was-2009/599191/10 "2011-10-13T21:18:37Z")
Algher, what are you talking about? These are budgets submitted to congress by the president. Why does it matter who controlled congress?
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### Author:  [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2011, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-bush-budget-was-2009/599191/11 "2011-10-13T22:23:38Z")
> [@nate](#):
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> Algher, what are you talking about? These are budgets submitted to congress by the president. Why does it matter who controlled congress?
What matters is the budget that is passed by the House, the Senate and then signed by the President (or overridden I guess - not sure if a budget has ever been passed over a Presidential veto). We tend to short cut the description and the budget to only being about who is sitting the Presidential seat, when it takes Congress and the President to make a budget.