# The last Infinity War Trailer

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 16, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660 "2018-03-16T13:16:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/81 "2018-03-20T16:15:58Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> I’m happy with Tomei for this Spider-Man. It’s a slightly fresher take and I don’t need Aunt May to be doddering around with a cup of tea dispensing gentle wisdom in every version.

What the F\*\*\* ?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/82 "2018-03-20T20:24:14Z")

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Um, **simster** , were you replying to the post you thought you were replying to, there?

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**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nauplius/32/51_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nauplius)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/83 "2018-03-20T20:34:57Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Um, **simster** , were you replying to the post you thought you were replying to, there?

pretty sure he’s referring to the end scene in Spider-Man: Homecoming

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBc\_T65j7vE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBc_T65j7vE)

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/84 "2018-03-20T20:35:28Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Or maybe it’s just that Marissa Tomei is an excellent, Oscar-winning actress.

Whose appearance we can hope Marvel won’t waste as they did with Judy Greer and Rachel McAdams in _Ant-Man_ and _Dr. Strange_ respectively. Fortunately, they put her to good if limited use in _Spider-Man: Homecoming_.

> [@Chronos](#):
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> Um, **simster** , were you replying to the post you thought you were replying to, there?

[”What the fu…?!?”](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ixbH7eAg23g&t=2m28s)

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/85 "2018-03-20T22:48:21Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Marissa Tomei got a lot of shit for being “too young” to play Aunt May. But why would a teenage boy’s mom’s sister of be like 80 years old?

FWIW, my mom and her “baby” sister are eighteen years apart. My mom had me when she was relatively young (early-20s), and my aunt had her only daughter a little later (late-30s)… My mom was older when my cousin was born (mid-50s) than my grandmother was when I was born (late-40s), so when my cousin is the age that I believe Peter is supposed to be in the movies, my mom will be in her early-70s.

Not quite eighty, but not as far-fetched as it sounds.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/86 "2018-03-21T00:18:28Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Um, **simster** , were you replying to the post you thought you were replying to, there?

absotively - See posts 83 and 84 and watch for flying objects overhead.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/87 "2018-03-21T01:33:29Z")

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Yeah, it make sense now. It just kind of seemed out of nowhere, without that context.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/88 "2018-03-21T01:52:50Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Yeah, it make sense now. It just kind of seemed out of nowhere, without that context.

So did that scene, which is what made it great.

As for Marisa Tomei as ‘Aunt May’, not is she more age appropriate as an aunt to a teenage Peter Parker, she’s also a great character in grounding the often too fantastical pantheon of superpowered characters. I’m not sure who complained about her but with apologies to Rosemarie Harris, who was a fantastic (great-)Aunt May for the Raimi films and Sally Field who did her best with the underwritten reboots, Tomei is the best casting ever of a supplementary non-powered character in the MCU. I am so disappointed that they brought Pepper Potts back because she brings nothing interesting or useful at this point.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/89 "2018-03-21T07:30:29Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Tomei is the best casting ever of a supplementary non-powered character in the MCU.

J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/90 "2018-03-21T08:16:11Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson.

Not the MCU.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/91 "2018-03-22T00:06:27Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Not the MCU.

Stanley Tucci as Dr. Erskine in CA: First Avengers.  
::drops mic::

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/92 "2018-03-22T02:00:39Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Or maybe it’s just that Marissa Tomei is an excellent, Oscar-winning actress.

As if there aren’t excellent, Oscar-winning actresses older than her? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/93 "2018-03-22T17:46:14Z")

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I’m going to make another prediction for everyone to poo-poo :):

Thanos gets defeated in this movie (probably at great cost). So who does that leave to top him as a villain in Avengers 4? The Red Skull of course. Imagine Thanos, defeated, dropping the Infinity Gauntlet and the Red Skull picking it up. That’s an ending.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/94 "2018-03-22T18:09:38Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I’m going to make another prediction for everyone to poo-poo :):
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> Thanos gets defeated in this movie (probably at great cost). So who does that leave to top him as a villain in Avengers 4? The Red Skull of course. Imagine Thanos, defeated, dropping the Infinity Gauntlet and the Red Skull picking it up. That’s an ending.

You’re close…not the Red Skull, but the green Skrull… 😃

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/95 "2018-03-22T18:25:32Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I’m going to make another prediction for everyone to poo-poo :):
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> Thanos gets defeated in this movie (probably at great cost). So who does that leave to top him as a villain in Avengers 4? The Red Skull of course. Imagine Thanos, defeated, dropping the Infinity Gauntlet and the Red Skull picking it up. That’s an ending.

Thanos being defeated only to discover an even Bigger Bad is basically one of the two narrative routes the film can take. (The other is Thanos surviving and becoming even more powerful while scattering the Avengers across space and time, but that is a little too conventional, methinks.) There are plenty of other threats from Marvel Comics to mine from and alter to fit the story, but yes, the Skrulls and their unending war with the Kree would seem to be a promising candidate. However, it could be something completely new as well, including perhaps a non-entity threat like the boundaries between different dimensions being compromised and the Avengers/Revengers/Guardians having to overcome their differences and figure out a way to save the universe. In the end, the villain really doesn’t matter all that much in these films; the driving conflicts are within and between the characters purported heroes themselves.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/96 "2018-03-22T18:31:46Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I’m going to make another prediction for everyone to poo-poo :):
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> Thanos gets defeated in this movie (probably at great cost). So who does that leave to top him as a villain in Avengers 4? The Red Skull of course. Imagine Thanos, defeated, dropping the Infinity Gauntlet and the Red Skull picking it up. That’s an ending.

I’ve always thought Red Skull may make another appearance. At the end of CA:FA, he was holding the tesseract, and the “death scene” looked more like teleportation.

At the time of the movie, the properties of the tesseract were not known, so it was easily missed. I actually figured Thanos had picked him up as he had picked up Loki out of the void.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/97 "2018-03-22T18:45:02Z")

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As good as Hugo Weaving was at chewing scenery in _Captain America: The First Avenger_, the character of Red Skull is really only a fit for a pseudo-fascist villain, and unless they completely reinvent the character it would seem to small to present a cosmic-scale threat in _Avengers 4_. Really, at this point, they’ve faced such massively more powerful threats that the true threat needs to be something beyond mere space and time (since Dr. Strange can control the both), although again, the real point of villains in the MCU is to pit the heroes against one another and themselves in moral and ethical conflict.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/98 "2018-03-22T20:45:34Z")

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k9befriender:

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> I’ve always thought Red Skull may make another appearance. At the end of CA:FA, he was holding the tesseract, and the “death scene” looked more like teleportation.

I had assumed he’d return in CA:Civil War, simply because Brock Rumlow, known in the comics as “Crossbones”, was going to appear, and everyone (prior to the movie) referred to him as Crossbones, and that code name makes no sense without a Red Skull connection. But in the actual movie, they never use that code name, so the absence of a returned Red Skull didn’t cause an incongruity there.

However, the door is definitely open for a Red Skull return, if Marvel ever wants to use that.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/99 "2018-03-22T21:05:09Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> k9befriender:
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> I had assumed he’d return in CA:Civil War, simply because Brock Rumlow, known in the comics as “Crossbones”, was going to appear, and everyone (prior to the movie) referred to him as Crossbones, and that code name makes no sense without a Red Skull connection. But in the actual movie, they never use that code name, so the absence of a returned Red Skull didn’t cause an incongruity there.
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> However, the door is definitely open for a Red Skull return, if Marvel ever wants to use that.

he really should have been somewhere in the background in Thor:Ragnarok

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-infinity-war-trailer/810660/100 "2018-03-22T21:10:13Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Not the MCU.

:smack:

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