# “The Last of Us” casts for Season 2’s antagonist

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**Created:** [January 10, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-casts-for-season-2-s-antagonist/995895 "2024-01-10T13:54:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
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Trying to keep from spoiling anything for people who are unfamiliar with the events of the second game.

HBO has officially announced the antagonist for season 2 of the series. It seems that [Kaitlyn Devers](https://www.gamesradar.com/the-last-of-us-season-2-abby-casting-confirmed-kaitlyn-dever/), who was recently in the acclaimed miniseries _Dopesick_ will step into the role of Abby, who was a polarizing figure in the game because

> **Summary**
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> she harbors a serious grudge against Joel because, when he was rescuing Ellie in the season 1 finale, shot and killed her father. As such, she hints down and kills Joel, leading Ellie to go looking for her for her own revenge.

Devers is a very good actress. Not just on _Dopesick_, but in just about everything she’s done. She may have to bulk up a bit, but she certainly has the ability to pull off the role.

Interestingly enough, she was considered for the role of Ellie, which went to Bella Ramsey.

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So is season 2 it for the show? Two games and two seasons?

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I don’t think they’ve decided that yet. There are rumors that the second game will encompass two seasons, but I don’t know what they plan to do. I know that Neil Druckman said before the writers’ strike that they had written the first episode, but to my knowledge, that’s as far as they’ve gone.

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**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-casts-for-season-2-s-antagonist/995895/4 "2024-01-10T18:41:32Z")

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I like Devers (Last Man Standing, Justified) and think she’d be _great_ in the role, but I like Ramsey as well and wish she’d continue. She’s got more of the Elliot Page vibe the creators were going for in the game.

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Since 2 people have said it now, to nip it in the bud it’s Dever not Devers

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
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Ellie is being recast?

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> [@epbrown](#):
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> I like Ramsey as well and wish she’d continue

> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Ellie is being recast?

No, Bella Ramsey will stay cast as _Ellie_. Dever is being added for the role of _Abby_.

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**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-casts-for-season-2-s-antagonist/995895/8 "2024-01-11T03:08:43Z")

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To quote Roseanne Rosanna Danna: Oh! That’s completely different. Never mind. 😉

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Bumping this thread because the first two episodes of season 2 have dropped.

Dever is absolutely _nailing_ the intensity of Abby. She’s a wonderful actress, and I didn’t really have many reservations about her (though I did mention when I created this thread that she should have bulked up just a little - though the developers made Abby jacked in the game because she was supposed to be a melee character, and a counterpoint to Ellie as more of a ranged fighter).

The second episode features _THE EVENT_. No spoilers, but it’s the catalyst for the entire second game.

I wasn’t sure they’d do that so soon, but I really liked the way it was presented to the viewers.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
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I absolutely hated Abby and I hated the fact that I had to play as her and keep her alive. It made the second game a lot less enjoyable. It felt like playing as Joffrey.

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Once you got to the point in the game where you learn Abby’s motivation, I had absolutely no problem playing as her. So far as I’m concerned, she was totally justified in her actions.

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Agree. By the end of the game, I was far more sympathetic to Abby. Not just because I understood her initial motivation, but because she’s the character that grows past her rage.

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Nope, still hated her.

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Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of people say that. And I get that. I really do. Not saying you’re one of these people, but so many people _hated_ Abby that Kaitlyn Dever [required extra security while filming](https://deadline.com/2024/08/kaitlyn-dever-needed-extra-security-the-last-of-us-set-isabela-merced-says-1236042711/).

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> [@epbrown](#):
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> To quote Roseanne Rosanna Danna: Oh! That’s completely different. Never mind. 😉

What’s all this I hear about violins on television? What’s all this I hear about busting children?

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Just a clever Easter egg I noticed in the most recent episode.

When Dina is talking with Ellie in Ellie’s house/garage to see what Ellie’s plans are, she holds up a map and tells Ellie to essentially only carry what fits in her backpack.

The actress playing Dina, Isabel Merced, played Dora the Explorer in [Dora and the Lost City of Gold](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7547410/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk).

And, for those who are unfamiliar with Dora the Explorer (I assume you must be posting from North Sentinel Island), maps and backpacks play a big role in the cartoon.

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**Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-casts-for-season-2-s-antagonist/995895/17 "2025-04-29T17:54:29Z")

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And boots, if you remember Dina giving Ellie a hard time about her Chucks.

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Swiper, no swiping!

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