# The Last of Us - tv show discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, hbomax-wb-dc\ **Created:** [January 16, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314 "2023-01-16T16:30:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/323 "2023-03-07T20:08:17Z")
Yeah, the cannibalism made zero sense. There were even a bunch of canoes! Send everyone out on the lake to fish. And you don’t have to be a great shot to hunt game. Set traps, ffs. Obviously, there are plenty of animals around. Ellie went out for ten minutes and saw a nice, plump rabbit and then a deer. Still, I enjoyed that episode quite a bit. Solid acting all around. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/324 "2023-03-07T21:14:09Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > I don’t remember _The Walking Dead_ even addressing the issue. But as a point of reference, I think historians have pegged the native population before the European invasion at less than 10 million. An interesting notion that I will reflect upon going forward. They did, they show a pack of zombies taking down a horse in an early season. That means the Walking Dead zombies will eat animals if given the chance, while The Last of Us seem to leave them alone. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/325 "2023-03-07T21:52:31Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Are they on pace to finish the first game at the end of the next episode? I think they are not. I have memories of quite a few things to still occur after the most recent episode. The last episode will be an Any% Speedrun where Joel exploits an out of bounds glitch to trigger a duplication bug for an infinite horses spawner and then has to perform a series of very precise jumps across horses to exponentially increase gallop speed. That coupled with a few well placed dialogue skips from precisely bringing up the menu at the right cutscene moments. If he pulls off a few frame perfect inputs, he should comfortably reach the end credits by the time allotted by HBO but of course, if he makes a major mistake, we will have to watch him retry in Episode 11. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/326 "2023-03-07T21:59:34Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > They did, they show a pack of zombies taking down a horse in an early season. That means the Walking Dead zombies will eat animals if given the chance, while The Last of Us seem to leave them alone. There’s also a scene in the first episode, where they go out deer hunting, and find a dead deer with a bunch of zombies eating it. They kill the zombies, and debate whether the deer would be safe to eat or not. (They decide not.) ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/327 "2023-03-08T06:03:03Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > The last episode will be an Any% Speedrun where Joel exploits an out of bounds glitch to trigger a duplication bug for an infinite horses spawner and then has to perform a series of very precise jumps across horses to exponentially increase gallop speed. That coupled with a few well placed dialogue skips from precisely bringing up the menu at the right cutscene moments. If he pulls off a few frame perfect inputs, he should comfortably reach the end credits by the time allotted by HBO but of course, if he makes a major mistake, we will have to watch him retry in Episode 11. Pfft. Gamers. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/328 "2023-03-08T12:31:48Z")
All Joel has to do is say [“Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, select, start,”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konami_Code?wprov=sfti1) and he’ll have full health and unlimited ammo. That should do it. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/329 "2023-03-08T21:43:49Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > All Joel has to do is say [“Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, select, start,”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konami_Code?wprov=sfti1) and he’ll have full health and unlimited ammo. That should do it. Maybe Ellie finds some old Metroid armor that just happens to fit her? > [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > I don’t have a good enough feel yet for how many survivors are roaming the countryside to venture an opinion on the availability of wild game. Are there one million left? Fifty million? If the bison population has recovered, it kinda indicates that there aren’t very many left. > > I don’t remember _The Walking Dead_ even addressing the issue. But as a point of reference, I think historians have pegged the native population before the European invasion at less than 10 million. An interesting notion that I will reflect upon going forward. Well…the show is called “The Last of Us”, not “The Lots of Us”. So presumably not that many. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/330 "2023-03-09T14:21:48Z")
Bullets are precious and they might not have fishing lines. It all depends on what they have and know. Maybe they were all city folk and took the lazy route of eatin’ long pork. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/331 "2023-03-09T14:31:31Z")
Is that what they call a fan wank? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/332 "2023-03-09T14:33:40Z")
Could be? I’m just theorizing, but I’m not really a fan. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/333 "2023-03-09T14:37:04Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Maybe they were all city folk That’s one of my common complaints about post-apocalyptic settings, set many years after the apocalypse. Anyone who was so “citified” that they couldn’t figure out how to fish, even decades later, would never have survived the first year of the apocalypse. They’d have starved, or been killed by the people who weren’t totally useless. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/334 "2023-03-09T14:38:05Z")
They did give us a line about an extra harsh winter. But it hardly explains their lack of hunting skill by this point. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/335 "2023-03-09T14:39:37Z")
Or, forget hunting, how about just growing things? Potatoes aren’t that hard! But they’re still scrounging the last of the canned tomatoes from 20 years ago… ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/336 "2023-03-09T14:40:49Z")
Well, David mentioned they had to abandon previous settlements because of raiders, so maybe they haven’t been there very long? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/337 "2023-03-09T14:41:39Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Bullets are precious Would they really have been that precious? I live in an area where not having at least 1000 .22 rounds and another 1000 .223 rounds is an oddity. It seems like the US, with 400 million firearms, and billions of rounds, would be good for awhile. Plus, all the stockpiles of primers, powder and other fixings for rolling your own. Yeah, people would safeguard what they had, but it seems like guns & ammo would be something that would be more available than almost any other resource like medicine, preserved food and viable auto fuel. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/338 "2023-03-09T14:44:19Z")
> [@Pork\_Rind](#): > > Well, David mentioned they had to abandon previous settlements because of raiders, so maybe they haven’t been there very long? Well, that’s my point. If they have a history of being driven out of every place they tried to build, they’d likely have starved or been murdered long before now. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/339 "2023-03-09T14:51:33Z")
That’s a good point. I was letting the scarcity of bullets in games like this influence my thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/340 "2023-03-09T15:09:57Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I was letting the scarcity of bullets in games like this influence my thinking. The worst example of this I’ve ever seen was in the movie _The Road_. At one point they find a bunker built by a prepper that hadn’t been looted yet. It was filled with canned food, batteries, equipment, you name it - but no guns or bullets. I can’t imagine anyone building such a bunker in the US, and then not stocking any kind of firearms or ammunition. And while it might have been necessary to the story to have the main character short on ammunition, it would have been trivially easy to fix this - just fill the bunker with the _wrong kind_ of ammunition. He had a .38 revolver. Just show him being frustrated that all he can find are .45 rounds and rifle ammo. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/341 "2023-03-09T17:24:37Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > I can’t imagine anyone building such a bunker in the US, and then not stocking any kind of firearms or ammunition. I have some Mormon relatives, and they all have “bunkers” filled with food and supplies, but none of them have any guns. It depends on the type of prepper. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314/342 "2023-03-09T17:35:44Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > They did give us a line about an extra harsh winter. But it hardly explains their lack of hunting skill by this point. It wasn’t really a lack of skill, they said there just wasn’t any game in the area. The line was “We didn’t expect this winter to be so cruel. Nothing’ll grow. Game’s been hard to find.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-last-of-us-tv-show-discussion/978314.md?page=18)