# The latest anti-Trumpism

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 17, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-anti-trumpism/749236 "2016-03-17T04:35:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-anti-trumpism/749236/1 "2016-03-17T04:35:53Z")

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…and it comes from…China?

Check this out:

> **[Trump opens Pandora’s box in US - Global Times](https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/973564.shtml)**
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> The rise of Trump has opened a Pandora’s box in US society.

If you ignore the apocalyptic predictions at the end of the piece, what the author says is pretty much true.

CNN’s current tagline for it builds it up as some kind of Chinese communist manifesto, but it really isn’t. Of course, I had to get over my initial reaction of “A one-party, one-candidate system has the balls to criticize our electoral process?”

I also like the reactions of some of the leaders of the Tianenmen Square protest, near the bottom:

> **[Big-mouthed clown? China reacts to Donald Trump's rise | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/16/world/china-donald-trump/index.html)**
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> For months, China has remained tight-lipped as Donald Trump has repeatedly bashed the country on the campaign trail. But that's now changing.

EDIT: and not 30 seconds after I checked back to CNN’s front page, they’d changed the tagline to something less inflammatory. It was originally something like “China’s scathing criticism of our electoral process.”

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-anti-trumpism/749236/2 "2016-03-17T05:23:28Z")

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Yeah, that first article is from mainland china, so it can be dismissed, but what those former protesters from Tienanmen Square and other dissidents that are going WTF at Trump as a candidate should give pause to many in the USA.

But this is not new, early in the primaries it was noted also that in Hong Kong (that still has some independence) there is a group of computer animators of the news that have become popular (even Conan O’Brien used them one day) that made fun of Palin and Trump by noting that they seem [their brains] to be powered by hamsters.

More serious publications from England like The Economist are just asking 

[“Really?”](https://dekerivers.wordpress.com/2016/02/28/the-economist-fire-donald-trump/)

With Trump as Uncle Sam in the cover.

> **[The Economist | Independent journalism](https://www.economist.com/)**
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> Get in-depth global news and analysis. Our coverage spans world politics, business, tech, culture and more. Subscribe for free trial.

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> political-party-let-alone-america-time-fire-trump  
> Time to fire Trump

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> That is an appalling prospect. The things Mr Trump has said in this campaign make him unworthy of leading one of the world’s great political parties, let alone America. One way to judge politicians is by whether they appeal to our better natures: Mr Trump has prospered by inciting hatred and violence. He is so unpredictable that the thought of him anywhere near high office is terrifying. He must be stopped.
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> The world according to Trump
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> Because each additional Trumpism seems a bit less shocking than the one before, there is a danger of becoming desensitised to his outbursts. To recap, he has referred to Mexicans crossing the border as rapists; called enthusiastically for the use of torture; hinted that Antonin Scalia, a Supreme Court justice, was murdered; proposed banning all Muslims from visiting America; advocated killing the families of terrorists; and repeated, approvingly, a damaging fiction that a century ago American soldiers in the Philippines dipped their ammunition in pigs’ blood before executing Muslim rebels. At a recent rally he said he would like to punch a protester in the face. This is by no means an exhaustive list.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-anti-trumpism/749236/3 "2016-03-17T05:37:39Z")

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The China criticism may reflect its own interests, but it’s harder to dismiss something like this (emphasis mine):  
A Donald Trump presidency poses a top-10 risk event that could disrupt the world economy, lead to political chaos in the U.S. and heighten security risks for the United States, according to the Economist Intelligence Unit … [a] well-respected global economic and geopolitical analysis firm.

… **Until Trump, the firm had never rated a pending election of a candidate to be a geopolitical risk to the U.S. and the world** … “It’s highly unusual, and I don’t think we ever have done it where we’ve had a single politician be the center of our risk items,” Powell said in an interview …

> **[The Economist rates Trump presidency among its top 10 global risks](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/economist-trump-presidency-global-risk-220887)**
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> The firm has no plans to include Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz or John Kasich on future risk lists.

And [on the lighter side](http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/u-s-becomes-laughingstock-of-world-for-something-other-than-gun-laws) …

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-anti-trumpism/749236/4 "2016-03-17T05:54:46Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The China criticism may reflect its own interests, but it’s harder to dismiss something like this (emphasis mine):  
> A Donald Trump presidency poses a top-10 risk event that could disrupt the world economy, lead to political chaos in the U.S. and heighten security risks for the United States, according to the Economist Intelligence Unit … [a] well-respected global economic and geopolitical analysis firm.
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> … **Until Trump, the firm had never rated a pending election of a candidate to be a geopolitical risk to the U.S. and the world** … “It’s highly unusual, and I don’t think we ever have done it where we’ve had a single politician be the center of our risk items,” Powell said in an interview …  
> [http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/economist-trump-presidency-global-risk-220887](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/economist-trump-presidency-global-risk-220887)  
> And [on the lighter side](http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/u-s-becomes-laughingstock-of-world-for-something-other-than-gun-laws) …

Seems pretty clear to me. I wonder that there are people who can’t see this.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-anti-trumpism/749236/5 "2016-03-17T06:35:39Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> Of course, I had to get over my initial reaction of “A one-party, one-candidate system has the balls to criticize our electoral process?”

“Even if it’s accurate?”

Oh, especially if it’s accurate."

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-anti-trumpism/749236/6 "2016-03-17T08:06:13Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> “Even if it’s accurate?”
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> Oh, especially if it’s accurate."

Ours at least allows some kind of illusion of choice, even if it is only an illusion.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-anti-trumpism/749236/7 "2016-03-17T08:31:14Z")

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Interesting; I went to Wang Dan’s page on Facebook to post a reassurance that all, in fact the majority, of Americans aren’t idiots and supporting Trump, but he has none. It was one automatically generated by Facebook because: “This Page is automatically generated based on what Facebook users are interested in, and not affiliated with or endorsed by anyone associated with the topic.”

I guess he doesn’t have an official page, or I’m not good enough to figure out how to find it.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-anti-trumpism/749236/8 "2016-03-17T08:39:37Z")

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Nevermind, I ferreted it out, as I usually (eventually) do…and I gave him an assurance that Trump is not only the crank he thinks, but also not going to be President.
