# The Latest Civilian Bombing by Americans **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 20, 2004, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-civilian-bombing-by-americans/251309 "2004-06-20T16:22:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Zagadka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zagadka/32/7272_2.png) [@Zagadka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zagadka)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-civilian-bombing-by-americans/251309/101 "2004-06-23T02:02:04Z")
> [@esquimalt](#): > > Check back about the beginning of April the last time hte Marines were there. … you’re saying that the military isn’t deployed in Iraq? ---
**Author:** ![esquimalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@esquimalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/esquimalt)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-civilian-bombing-by-americans/251309/102 "2004-06-23T02:02:46Z")
> [@Zagadka](#): > > Oh, by the way, thanks **esquimalt** for pointing out that they knew there were women and children present. > > “We’ll kill anyone in the way to stop terrorism!” If they knew & they got who they were looking for, No regrets from me. ---
**Author:** ![esquimalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@esquimalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/esquimalt)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-civilian-bombing-by-americans/251309/103 "2004-06-23T02:03:50Z")
> [@Zagadka](#): > > … you’re saying that the military isn’t deployed in Iraq? Fallujah ---
**Author:** ![Zagadka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zagadka/32/7272_2.png) [@Zagadka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zagadka)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-civilian-bombing-by-americans/251309/104 "2004-06-23T02:07:43Z")
> [@esquimalt](#): > > Fallujah Right, the Marines got rotated out, the Army is still laying siege… ---
**Author:** ![Zagadka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zagadka/32/7272_2.png) [@Zagadka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zagadka)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-civilian-bombing-by-americans/251309/105 "2004-06-23T02:09:29Z")
And what is the Marines pulling out supposed to prove, again? Disjointed replies aren’t good O\_o ---
**Author:** ![Zagadka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zagadka/32/7272_2.png) [@Zagadka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zagadka)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-civilian-bombing-by-americans/251309/106 "2004-06-23T02:10:31Z")
> [@esquimalt](#): > > If they knew & they got who they were looking for, No regrets from me. O\_o You don’t have a problem taking out a few dozen civilians if we get a few terrorists? ---
**Author:** ![esquimalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@esquimalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/esquimalt)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-civilian-bombing-by-americans/251309/107 "2004-06-23T02:13:40Z")
> [@Zagadka](#): > > Right, the Marines got rotated out, the Army is still laying siege… Wrong. The Marines pulled back to allow an Iraqi force to Patrol the City. Wouldn’t be surprised if these attacks were coordinated with said force. Just my opinion so don’t go “cite” crazy on me. Another attack on a “safehouse” happened today. Could be indiscrimate bombing as you allege or we are getting intelligence on the movements of the terrorists (freedom fighters if you wish) ---
**Author:** ![Zagadka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zagadka/32/7272_2.png) [@Zagadka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zagadka)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-civilian-bombing-by-americans/251309/108 "2004-06-23T02:19:44Z")
> [@esquimalt](#): > > Wrong. The Marines pulled back to allow an Iraqi force to Patrol the City. Wouldn’t be surprised if these attacks were coordinated with said force. Just my opinion so don’t go “cite” crazy on me. Sorry, this is GD. Opinion doesn’t get ya very far here. So… cite? ---
**Author:** ![esquimalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@esquimalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/esquimalt)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-civilian-bombing-by-americans/251309/109 "2004-06-23T02:38:13Z")
> [@Zagadka](#): > > Sorry, this is GD. Opinion doesn’t get ya very far here. > > So… cite? If you wish. [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/29/iraq/main614664.shtml](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/29/iraq/main614664.shtml) ---
**Author:** ![Zagadka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zagadka/32/7272_2.png) [@Zagadka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zagadka)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-civilian-bombing-by-americans/251309/110 "2004-06-23T02:55:27Z")
> [@esquimalt](#): > > If you wish. > > [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/29/iraq/main614664.shtml](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/29/iraq/main614664.shtml) Thank you. Now, again, what were we talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Sinful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Sinful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinful)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-civilian-bombing-by-americans/251309/111 "2004-07-01T06:59:59Z")
> [@kennybath](#): > > And as to the risk of Iraqi civilians vs. our military, again I think the record show that our military has had extraordinary restraint in trying to avoid civilian casualties. The US, Israel, and Russia are the only three nations that use bombing to target terrorist hideouts…do you know how stupid this is? What if Clinton bombed random places in Oklahoma because he heard that McVeigh used them as a “safehouse?” It is this kind of illogical lack of concern for the iraqi people that is fueling the insurgency. In Cambodia US Bombing massacred 500,000 civilian peasants. In Iraq after the Gulf War the US-imposed sanctions that later followed, over 1.5 million civilian iraqis were starved to death. And I love how you pull up an Israel-manufactured stereotype of human body shields and use it to explain the Iraqi insurgency. Do you know the same people in israel who constantly drill in their “human body shield” theories into Western minds also call the Israeli occupation of palestinian lands a “myth?” You are far too biased in your reasonings. You make insurgents out to be cowardly murders who kill out of blind joy, and american troops and generals as proud, brave men, who sit in their comfy chairs and order air strikes 3,000 miles away by telephone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-civilian-bombing-by-americans/251309.md?page=5)