# The latest GOP hope to remain viable nationally: Rig how Electoral Votes are allocated

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 4, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-gop-hope-to-remain-viable-nationally-rig-how-electoral-votes-are-allocated/662659 "2013-07-04T20:17:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-gop-hope-to-remain-viable-nationally-rig-how-electoral-votes-are-allocated/662659/81 "2013-10-31T17:09:51Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Florida too, now.](http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/30/2698181/florida-lawmaker-revives-gop-plan-to-rig-the-electoral-college-for-republicans/)

Ehhh…lots of stuff gets proposed and little of it passes. This won’t because it would remove any importance Florida has to the national election and our guys like the spotlight.

Pilon appears to be pretty much a non-entity. Not one of his non-committee bills passed last session.

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**Author:** ![2sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/e47774/32.png) [@2sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2sense)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-gop-hope-to-remain-viable-nationally-rig-how-electoral-votes-are-allocated/662659/82 "2013-11-01T07:00:42Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Because legally, you can’t demand that a state other than your own recount the votes. If California is part of a compact and they can’t figure out what to do in a close election, they can’t tell Texas, not in the compact, that they have to recount their votes when they’ve already satisfied their requirements.

I look at the voting compact in light of _Oregon v Mitchell_. Once it was demonstrated that 18 year olds were getting the vote no matter what the difficulties in amending the Constitution to standardize the practice evaporated. Similarly I expect pro-EC forces to see the advantages in amending the Constitution to deal with potential issues such as this. (Though in fact nothing is stopping Congress right now from standardizing election rules nationwide which would really help reduce the chances for electoral shenanigans. See the court case noted above.)

My question about the national recount was technical and not legal. I see no reason why we can’t accurately count all the votes with a high degree of confidence in the result. Particularly if national standards were implemented.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-gop-hope-to-remain-viable-nationally-rig-how-electoral-votes-are-allocated/662659/83 "2013-11-01T15:44:29Z")

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Well, as long as _good_ national standards were implemented. All too many people, at all levels, have entirely wrong ideas about what makes for a secure voting system. One could, for example, end up with a national mandate for security by obscurity in the voting machines, which would be the worst thing we could get (but which would look like a good idea, to those uneducated in security).

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-gop-hope-to-remain-viable-nationally-rig-how-electoral-votes-are-allocated/662659/84 "2013-11-13T17:58:58Z")

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[Relevant new _Rolling Stone_article covering the Republicans’ nationally-organized and systematic gerrymandering since 2010.](http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-republicans-rig-the-game-20131111)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-gop-hope-to-remain-viable-nationally-rig-how-electoral-votes-are-allocated/662659/85 "2013-11-13T18:43:36Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Well, as long as _good_ national standards were implemented. All too many people, at all levels, have entirely wrong ideas about what makes for a secure voting system. One could, for example, end up with a national mandate for security by obscurity in the voting machines, which would be the worst thing we could get (but which would look like a good idea, to those uneducated in security).

They could also [install antivirus software in the voting machines](http://xkcd.com/463/) just to be sure.

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