# The latest in abortion insanity **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 12, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590 "2016-05-12T03:11:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/81 "2016-05-13T20:29:02Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Truth is an affirmative defense against libel. > > Naming the state senator who sponsored a law is not libelous, under any definition. > > Was the poster lying about her accusations, and that’s why she wouldn’t name him? Yep, but you’d still have to defend yourself if the case came up. Which would be a hassle. Its a message board, you want journalistic levels of integrity - I’d suggest…maybe the BBC? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/82 "2016-05-13T20:43:05Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Yep, but you’d still have to defend yourself if the case came up. Which would be a hassle. A public official trying to make a legal claim against another person for his or her opinion on a message board wouldn’t get past the filing stage. If the official had a lawyer with any common sense, it wouldn’t even get that far. So what is Ms. Spam so afraid of? > [@](#): > > Its a message board, you want journalistic levels of integrity - I’d suggest…maybe the BBC? I just wish there would be some integrity to posts in Great Debates/Elections, but that isn’t going to happen, so if I see it in the BBQ, I’m gonna call it like I see it. I also want a pony. ---
**Author:** ![spamforbrains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@spamforbrains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spamforbrains)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/83 "2016-05-13T21:27:12Z")
I don’t really get what you are going on about. I’m not going to post someone’s name and then accuse them of acting like an asshole. I’m sure that is illegal, or at least wrong. I’m also pretty sure that recording people without their consent is illegal, or at least wrong. Whining and moaning about something someone did in vague terms is normal behavior. No one gets hurt, people get informed about the possibility of nastiness, and life moves on. For example, a person in a brown minivan cut me off and was weaving all over the road today and me saying “why can’t minivan drivers drive and maybe she is drunk” is very different from posting her license plate number and saying the same. Not to mention that has very little to do with the point of the thread. I was trying to point out that these laws are NOT based on any desire to reduce abortions and are instead based on a strange male impulse to control the behavior of women and are rooted in hatred, not some desire to protect fetuses. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/84 "2016-05-13T21:47:07Z")
> [@spamforbrains](#): > > I’m not going to post someone’s name and then accuse them of acting like an asshole. I’m sure that is illegal, or at least wrong. Incorrect. > [@](#): > > I’m also pretty sure that recording people without their consent is illegal, or at least wrong. Incorrect, in most U.S. jurisdictions. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/85 "2016-05-13T21:52:44Z")
It’s right in some jurisdictions, but wrong in others? Ethics and morals are ruled state by state now? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/86 "2016-05-13T21:54:13Z")
I wonder if, since the only thing in **D’Anconia** ’s viewable profile is a Biblical quote, he/she could possibly be pro-life and that could be a motivation for attempting to derail the thread. Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/87 "2016-05-13T21:55:04Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It’s right in some jurisdictions, but wrong in others? Ethics and morals are ruled state by state now? Laws are. I’m sorry if that is confusing to you. ---
**Author:** ![spamforbrains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@spamforbrains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spamforbrains)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/88 "2016-05-13T23:04:22Z")
So if we are going to be absurd, have you had a vasectomy? I hear they are good for preventing abortions and barely hurt at all. Got a video of yourself having one? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/89 "2016-05-13T23:08:10Z")
…and yet another thread sidetracked by the current incarnation of the **“Dio Show”/**. D’anconia enters a thread, takes the opposite viewpoint of whatever is being discussed, and rational discourse stops so that we can all attend to the attention whore. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/90 "2016-05-13T23:19:46Z")
> [@spamforbrains](#): > > So if we are going to be absurd, have you had a vasectomy? I hear they are good for preventing abortions and barely hurt at all. Got a video of yourself having one? What does that have to do with price of tea in China? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/91 "2016-05-13T23:21:22Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Not a single person in the universe cares what phone you are posting from, jackass. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/92 "2016-05-13T23:21:45Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > So, you’re a liar? No. An opinion, based on disclosed facts, is not a lie. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/93 "2016-05-13T23:23:04Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Not a single person in the universe cares what phone you are posting from, jackass. Hey, fucknut, not a single person in this thread cares what you think about anything, cuntfunnel. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/94 "2016-05-13T23:26:15Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > It goes to credibility. The whole story sounds made up, or at a bare minimum, highly exaggerated. > > She contacted a “male GOP” and “leader of our country” who said mean things to her, but she won’t name him because of imaginary “liability laws”. > > Later, the story changed that she’s just bad with names. > > Also, while she claims to have an “extremely limited grasp of the legal system”, she boldly declares which laws are unconstitutional. > > Sure. You forgot that she didn’t record it because it would be illegal, until learning it wasn’t illegal, at which point she couldn’t reach her phone in time to record it. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/95 "2016-05-13T23:30:18Z")
> [@spamforbrains](#): > > I don’t really get what you are going on about. I’m not going to post someone’s name and then accuse them of acting like an asshole. I’m sure that is illegal, or at least wrong. I’m also pretty sure that recording people without their consent is illegal, or at least wrong. Whining and moaning about something someone did in vague terms is normal behavior. No one gets hurt, people get informed about the possibility of nastiness, and life moves on. For example, a person in a brown minivan cut me off and was weaving all over the road today and me saying “why can’t minivan drivers drive and maybe she is drunk” is very different from posting her license plate number and saying the same. > > Not to mention that has very little to do with the point of the thread. I was trying to point out that these laws are NOT based on any desire to reduce abortions and are instead based on a strange male impulse to control the behavior of women and are rooted in hatred, not some desire to protect fetuses. I think you took your opposition to this law – which, in fairness to you, has some very principled arguments against it – and decided to add some personal flair to,the issue by creating or embellishing an event associated with it. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/96 "2016-05-13T23:37:31Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I think you took your opposition to this law – which, in fairness to you, has some very principled arguments against it – and decided to add some personal flair to,the issue by creating or embellishing an event associated with it. Flair, creative posting, and embellishing do not add to the debate, they subtract. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/97 "2016-05-13T23:44:38Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Not a single person in the universe cares what phone you are posting from, jackass. If he turns it off, do you promise to go away and never come back? Posted from my Computer, using a Keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/98 "2016-05-13T23:45:32Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > If he turns it off, do you promise to go away and never come back? He’s too dumb to turn it off, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/99 "2016-05-13T23:51:11Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > He’s too dumb to turn it off, apparently. That’s OK, you can still go away and never come back. Posted from my Computer, using a Keyboard ---
**Author:** ![spamforbrains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@spamforbrains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spamforbrains)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590/100 "2016-05-14T00:04:25Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by spamforbrains View Post > So if we are going to be absurd, have you had a vasectomy? I hear they are good for preventing abortions and barely hurt at all. Got a video of yourself having one? > What does that have to do with price of tea in China? Not much to do with tea, but lots to do with abortions. Every single abortion had a man involved. If you’ll look at the Lancet study I posted, approximately 70% of abortions are requested by married couples. One can only wonder why the man didn’t get a vasectomy if the couple had decided they had enough children already. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-in-abortion-insanity/754590.md?page=6)