# The latest Racist Fire to be fanned? Black Panther charges dropped. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 8, 2010, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957 "2010-07-08T14:10:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/61 "2010-07-09T12:18:13Z")
> [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](#): > > Enough with the bullshit evasions and innuendo. If you want to make an accusation, make an accusation. It sounds like you’re trying to imply that Obama wants this guy to be free to intimidate voters in 2012. Do you believe that? Do you believe that Obama wants Black Panthers to intimidate people, and pulled strings specifically so that this guy would be available? > > If you’re not willing to come right out and say what you think is going on, then shut the fuck up. As pointed out, the plea bargain was **through** 2012 not until 2012. That means including all of 2012, our next presidential election year. It still doesn’t mean that after 2012 it’s okay to carry a weapon to a polling place. I’d say if the same guy does the same thing he will face similar or harsher charges. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/62 "2010-07-09T12:27:09Z")
I found out what I wanted to learn about the details of this case, {except the details of the neighborhood in Philly where this happened} I’m really flabergasted at the lengths Fox went to to make this into something that is such a dishonest representation of what actually happened. The ACORN connection and the mention of thousandes of fraudulent voters was astonishing. They are really disgusting in their dishonesty and I’m saddened and amazed that their ratings seem to be so good. Why are people attracted to that kind of bullshit. I’m okay with a bias slant one way or the other. I want to hear both sides of a particular story. The problem is with intentional and repeated distortion and willful misrepresentation of factual details to serve their agenda. WTF! I understand people feeling they’d rather listen to people who have more conservative views on things,but doesn’t honesty count for something? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/63 "2010-07-09T12:55:18Z")
I’m all for not being intimidated at the polling place, but do we have any clips anywhere of the Fox and Friends people saying anything at any point that _isn’t_ horribly biased, inflammatory or outright false? It seems such clips would be harder to find than the other sort. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/64 "2010-07-09T12:57:42Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > As pointed out, the plea bargain was **through** 2012 not until 2012. That means including all of 2012, our next presidential election year. It still doesn’t mean that after 2012 it’s okay to carry a weapon to a polling place. I’d say if the same guy does the same thing he will face similar or harsher charges. There you go again, with your fancy “facts” and “reason.” Magiver is not interested in those. Magiver is interested in conspiracies and vague accusations by suggestion and loaded questions. After all, man, we’re talking about one precinct in Philly in the 2012 election. Everyone knows that if Obama wants to keep his office in 2012 all he has to do is tie up that one precinct and he’s home free. That’s why he’s willing to blatantly disregard the law and get all the bad press. It won’t matter what the press says, or what people think, because now that this guy is free to stand outside the door with his baton and let in tens of thousands of ACORN frauds, Obama is going to win the election no matter what, and his plans to rule forever in a socialist gun-free caliphate will be complete. I for one welcome our new Kenyan overlords. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/65 "2010-07-09T13:53:04Z")
> [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](#): > > There you go again, with your fancy “facts” and “reason.” Magiver is not interested in those. Magiver is interested in conspiracies and vague accusations by suggestion and loaded questions. After all, man, we’re talking about one precinct in Philly in the 2012 election. Everyone knows that if Obama wants to keep his office in 2012 all he has to do is tie up that one precinct and he’s home free. That’s why he’s willing to blatantly disregard the law and get all the bad press. It won’t matter what the press says, or what people think, because now that this guy is free to stand outside the door with his baton and let in tens of thousands of ACORN frauds, Obama is going to win the election no matter what, and his plans to rule forever in a socialist gun-free caliphate will be complete. I for one welcome our new Kenyan overlords. It’s always so compelling when people decide to not entertain arguments that contain actual facts and reason. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/66 "2010-07-09T15:29:17Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > Really. So if three poll watchers working for McCain file a complaint we don’t need complaints from the actual voters? That’s novel. > > once more, if the problem was so rampant, and so serious at that particular polling place, why were two of the witnesses only there for a short time? They claimed voters approached and walked away. Why didn’t we get any of that on video? Why not one short interview with any voter who objected and thought it was so awful? If you’re not going to believe the poll watchers, then obviously there isn’t any evidence you would believe. No matter how good the evidence is, you will always have some lame excuse for refusing to accept the evidence. But yeah, I guess you’re right. The voters should have come forward to be interviewed in front of the camera, knowing full well that a violent political cult in their community is watching them. And then, when their car gets vandalized or their house catches fire mysteriously in the middle of the night, you’ll insist loudly that there’s no reason to think the cult did it. There’s no point in presenting facts to people who have no respect for facts–and clearly you and the other deniers on this thread hae no respect for facts. ---
**Author:** ![G-SE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@G-SE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G-SE)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/67 "2010-07-09T15:51:50Z")
For all you liberals who think that your “gotcha” moment is the lack of actual voters filing complaints - The Voting Rights Act of 1965 Sec. 11b states it is illegal to even **ATTEMPT** to intimidate, regardless of success in such attempt. An actual voter complaint is not required, and the statement by witnesses clearly prove that an attempt was made to intimidate. Not that hard to figure out, unless you can give me some other reason why a couple of African Americans (dressed in military gear, with weapons, in front of a polling location, using racial epithets towards whites) were there. Spreading peace and love? Selling flowers? Judging people by the content of their character? Give me a break. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/68 "2010-07-09T16:19:07Z")
And if the miscreants in your scenario claim to be there to _prevent_ intimidation by some other group, how do you prove otherwise? Suppose these New Black Panther buttmunchkins claim to have heard that white racist thugs were all set to show up at the polling place to scare black voters, and they got dressed up in their tough guy costumes to scare them off? How do you prove otherwise? Mind you, I’m not talking about peering into their minds and taking an inventory of the contents, as you so ably demonstrate. It may shock you to hear it, but telepathy is not currently recognized as evidence in our courts. More’s the pity, perhaps, but there it is. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/69 "2010-07-09T16:34:30Z")
Not that it will matter for some, [but here is more from Bartle Bull.](http://ironicsurrealism.blogivists.com/2010/07/01/video-megyn-kelly-interview-with-civil-rights-atty-bartle-bull-eye-witness-to-new-black-panther-voter-intimidation-incident/) ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/70 "2010-07-09T16:42:16Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > If you’re not going to believe the poll watchers, then obviously there isn’t any evidence you would believe. No matter how good the evidence is, you will always have some lame excuse for refusing to accept the evidence. I’m not saying I don’t believe the poll watchers. I’m saying that lacking a single voter complaint from that district or any evidence other than poll watching non voters the DOJ made a judgement call on whether they had a prosecutable case. The DOJ under Bush made the call that they didn’t have a criminal case but filed a civil case, naming the Black Panther Party as well as three individuals. IANAL and don’t know the specific differences between a civil case and a criminal one but the evidence clearly indicates that it was the Bush DOJ that made the call to not file criminal charges. I assume that even on civil charges you’d have to have some evidence of coordination between the BP group and the individuals to prosecute. Have you seen or read anything to indicate it was the Black Panthers acting under direction as a group rather than one asshole? I haven’t seen any. Now we’re down to two individuals and civil charges. One lived in that neighborhood and have every right to be there. The one who carried the stick did get an injunction against carrying any weapon near a polling place. > [@](#): > > But yeah, I guess you’re right. The voters should have come forward to be interviewed in front of the camera, knowing full well that a violent political cult in their community is watching them. And then, when their car gets vandalized or their house catches fire mysteriously in the middle of the night, you’ll insist loudly that there’s no reason to think the cult did it. My My aren’t we dramatic? I can understand some individuals not wanting to get involved but if it was a serious problem I’m skeptical that nobody would come forward because they were all trembling in fear. That’s nothing but conjecture on your part. Did any of the witnesses who did testify have any car problems due to this violent political cult? > [@](#): > > There’s no point in presenting facts to people who have no respect for facts–and clearly you and the other deniers on this thread hae no respect for facts. I’ve been dealing with the facts. It’s those trying to make a political mountain out of this that have been distorting them. People can even have an honest disagreement over what the facts indicate, but distorting the facts to create a false impression doesn’t help. I think the fact that it was a civil case rather than a criminal one meant that the result would be some injunction rather than any jail time. Keep in mind that call was made by the Bush DOJ not Holder. They got an injunction against the individual with the weapon, and dropped charges against the guy who lives in that neighborhood and carried no weapon. They dropped the charges against the BPs as a group, probably due to a complete lack of evidence. None of the witnesses provided anything to indicate any group was guilty of anything. They only testified about the people they saw. Are yopu suggesting it was Holder and Obama’s responsibility to upgrade the charges that the Bush DOJ filed? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/71 "2010-07-09T16:50:09Z")
in re Bartle Bull: Artfully worded. He never saw armed and uniformed voter intimidation? All the time he was in the South working for civil rights, never saw anything like that? So, “uniformed” means wearing camo? And “armed” means carrying a baton? I don’t know how he could have been where he was and not see any voter intimidation. So I guess he means he never saw\* precisely\* this variety, being “armed” and “uniformed”. According to the definitions that most support his contention, that is. Firebombing a church, for instance, doesn’t count, as no uniforms nor batons were in evidence. Trying to expand this puny incident into a national cause is like trying to inflate a Japanese condom into a dirigible. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/72 "2010-07-09T16:59:27Z")
> [@G-SE](#): > > For all you liberals who think that your “gotcha” moment is the lack of actual voters filing complaints - > > The Voting Rights Act of 1965 Sec. 11b states it is illegal to even **ATTEMPT** to intimidate, regardless of success in such attempt. An actual voter complaint is not required, and the statement by witnesses clearly prove that an attempt was made to intimidate. An angry exchange between one man and a poll watcher is not clear evidence of voter intimidation. You’d have to ask those working under the Bush DOJ to explain why they decided there was not enough evidence to file criminal charges. The Obama admin and Holder followed through on the charges filed. > [@](#): > > Not that hard to figure out, unless you can give me some other reason why a couple of African Americans (dressed in military gear, with weapons, in front of a polling location, using racial epithets towards whites) were there. I asked earlier about the neighborhood they were in. One of the BPs was from that neighborhood. If the neighborhood would likely go to Obama anyway {I don’t know do you?} then what would be the point of intimidating those voters? > [@](#): > > Spreading peace and love? > Selling flowers? > Judging people by the content of their character? > > Give me a break. Perhaps they thought they were there to help protect their neighborhood voting place from outside interference and helping to elect the first black president. I don’t know, but it’s not realisitic to say voter intimidation was the only possible reason. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/73 "2010-07-09T17:38:00Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Not that it will matter for some, [but here is more from Bartle Bull.](http://ironicsurrealism.blogivists.com/2010/07/01/video-megyn-kelly-interview-with-civil-rights-atty-bartle-bull-eye-witness-to-new-black-panther-voter-intimidation-incident/) Bull surprises me because of his background, but let’s look at the details. He says in this interview that a racist comment was hurled at him and a companion. Okay, but these men were not voters. I have a hard time seeing that exchange as voter intimidation. He does not say he heard this kind of speech directed at voters trying to enter the polling place. He makes a reference to armed men carrying weapons. One guy had a weapon. A stick. I believe in another article he mentioned nooses hanging from trees by polling places in the south. Would you say that in the 60s a noose hanging from a tree is a little more of a threat than two men, one carrying a nightstick? He talks about armed men blocking the entrance. In the video we see people entering and leaving behind them completely unhindered. So, is his language just careless or planned? He’s been a lawyer all his life. What do you think? He also very clearly tries to connect ACORN and an imagined thousands of illegal voters to these two men and claimed their purpose there was to intimidate poll watchers from challenging those false voters. That’s a pretty hefty serious charge. If that is the case then he has to explain why the Bush DOJ decided there was not enough evidence to pursue criminal charges. Does he have one tiny shred of evidence to back up his ACORN allegations. Have you seen any? That would make the charge poll watcher intimidation rather than voter intimidation wouldn’t it? They’re working to aide people in casting false ballots registered by ACORN. If that’s what was going on why did two of the witnesses only stay there a short time? I do wonder why a man with his background as a civil rights attorney would make such allegations if he has no evidence. He claims it’s to protect civil rights and shows his medal, but why would anyone who truly cared about justice make such serious allegations without evidence? Is the obvious answer, money, a possibility? I have a hard time understanding how thousands of illegal votes could be cast and not caught. People register to vote with name and address. Do a cross section of voters in a suspected area to verify that the names of people who casts ballots match the names and addresses of real people. You’d think thousands of bogus voters would show up wouldn’t you? I have a hard time believeing that’s a realisitic charge. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/74 "2010-07-09T18:10:18Z")
I’ll mention one other person, this from the 2nd media matters link > [@](#): > > Abigail Thernstrom, a Republican who serves as co-chairwoman of the Civil Rights Commission and who is an adjunct scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, wrote a July 6 National Review Online blog post criticizing the “overheated rhetoric filled with insinuations and unsubstantiated charges” surrounding the case. Thernstrom wrote, “Forget about the New Black Panther Party case; it is very small potatoes.” > > Thernstrom: Perez “makes a perfectly plausible argument” for DOJ’s decision not to pursue additional charges. Thernstrom also wrote: “Thomas Perez, the assistant attorney general for civil rights, makes a perfectly plausible argument: Different lawyers read this barely litigated statutory provision differently. It happens all the time, especially when administrations change in the middle of litigation.” > > Thernstrom: “I do not think that this inquiry has served the interests of the Commission.” During an April 23 hearing into the DOJ’s decision, Thernstrom also said, “I do not think that this inquiry has served the interests of the Commission as being a bipartisan watchdog for important civil rights violations, and I do not believe it has served well the party to which I belong.” ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/75 "2010-07-09T18:56:28Z")
It’s absolutely insane that this place is so nakedly partisan that you guys can’t even agree that it was, in fact, intimidation. OF COURSE it was. Are you out of your goddamned minds? Two aggressive guys standing in front of a polling place, one tapping a weapon meaningfully? Look, I’m as lefty as most of you people, but to say that’s not intimidation (or attempted intimidation, which is also illegal), is irrational. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/76 "2010-07-09T19:58:49Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > …one tapping a weapon meaningfully?.. Morse code? ---
**Author:** ![G-SE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@G-SE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G-SE)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/77 "2010-07-09T20:05:27Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > Perhaps they thought they were there to help protect their neighborhood voting place from outside interference and helping to elect the first black president. :smack: Wow. Just wow. That exact reasoning was used by racists in the 60’s to intimidate blacks from voting & registering, to help elect their white candidates. “Outsiders have come into Jessup County…” ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/78 "2010-07-09T20:48:53Z")
Those scary looking black guys wearing paramilitary uniforms could have easily avoided this whole mess if only they’d worn suits and ties. And been white. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/79 "2010-07-09T21:19:35Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > It’s absolutely insane that this place is so nakedly partisan that you guys can’t even agree that it was, in fact, intimidation. OF COURSE it was. Are you out of your goddamned minds? Two aggressive guys standing in front of a polling place, one tapping a weapon meaningfully? do you mean menacingly? > [@](#): > > Look, I’m as lefty as most of you people, but to say that’s not intimidation (or attempted intimidation, which is also illegal), is irrational. I don’t deny that people would find these two men intimidating. That doesn’t mean their goal in being there was, or thier actions consituted, voter intimidation. Can you explain why the Bush DOJ found insufficient evidence to charge them with voter intimidation? Voter intimidation would require some sort of purpose or goal right? To either stop people from voting, or as Bull accuses, to allow bogus voters to vote for Obama and to intimidate GOP poll watchers from challanging voters. Which do you suppose it was. As I mentioned before. If it was in a neighborhood that would have probably gone to Obama then turning voters away doesn’t make much sense does it? If the goal was, as Bull accuses, to allow thousands of ACORN registered bogus voters to do thier thing, where’s an ounce of evidence for that. Why didn’t the GOP witness poll watchers stick around to gather evidence , or gather any after the fact? It could be and likely was an ill advised isolated incident. The 2nd man, without the baton, was registered as a poll watcher. His companion made a horrible call in showing up with the baton and shot his mouth off to a couple of people. The police came and he was asked or ordered to leave and he did. Where’s the master plan for voter intimidation? ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957/80 "2010-07-09T21:31:15Z")
> [@G-SE](#): > > :smack: Wow. Just wow. > > That exact reasoning was used by racists in the 60’s to intimidate blacks from voting & registering, to help elect their white candidates. > > “Outsiders have come into Jessup County…” The point being that the BP without the baton lived in that neighborhood and was a registered Poll watcher. As I just said, voter intimidation would mean either they were trying to stop people from voting, sway their vote, or as Bull accuses, help bogus voters registered by ACORN to cast bogus votes. Since the Bush DOJ didn’t bring any criminal charges I can safely assume they didn’t have sufficient evidence. {that also happens to be what they said} I’m suggesting that it’s possible in thier {the BPs} minds they were there to make sure people voting in _their_ neighborhood were allowed to do so. In fact in one FOX video the 2nd man who is left after baton boy is told to vacate, says exactly that. If that seems beyond the realm of possibility to you and the only possibility is voter intimidation , then congraulations Krescan. You’re a better mind reader than I am. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-latest-racist-fire-to-be-fanned-black-panther-charges-dropped/545957.md?page=5)