# The least convincing hetrosexual on TV

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 8, 1999, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300 "1999-12-08T05:07:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/21 "1999-12-08T19:08:00Z")

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John McLaughlin (the McLaughlin group.)

There’s just something about him that tells you he hangs out in leather bars in his spare time.

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Quand les talons claquent, l’esprit se vide.  
Maréchal Lyautey

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/22 "1999-12-08T21:20:00Z")

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Dave Foley is straight. He has a wife and family. He’s just about the only one from “The Kids in the Hall” that was, though.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/23 "1999-12-08T21:34:00Z")

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I only caught a couple of episodes(thank God) of _Caroline In The City_, but when Caroline and Richard were flirting I thought “this is part of the joke, right? I mean no one thinks he’s straight or even bi, do they?”  
Oh, and for the number one bad influence that almost swayed me in _that_ direction:

**Batman and Robin**

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/24 "1999-12-08T21:34:00Z")

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Mister Whipple.

Though he was DEEPLY closeted.

Can’t you picture him leering at the stockboys?

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Uke

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**Author:** ![keystream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a3d4f5/32.png) [@keystream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keystream)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/25 "1999-12-08T21:45:00Z")

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I thought Scott Thompson was the only gay Kid in the Hall. And he is very definitely gay.

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**Author:** ![Globe-trotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cab0a1/32.png) [@Globe-trotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Globe-trotter)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/26 "1999-12-08T21:49:00Z")

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Scott Thompson _is_ the only gay Kid in the Hall, but they all looked good in drag. 😉

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Some drink at the fountain of knowledge…others just gargle.

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/27 "1999-12-08T21:53:00Z")

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I know about the Jennifer Love Hewitt thing and the Christian thing but I still find it hard to believe that Carson Daly (sp?) isn’t gayer than a treeful of monkeys on nitrous oxide\*.

\*(With thanks to Pratchett and Gaiman)

Oh and Nathan Lane? Come on, that guy’s gay. So’s Rupert Everett, while I’m at it. I hate to bust anyone’s bubble.

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**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/28 "1999-12-08T21:59:00Z")

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Matt Damon and Ben Affleck.

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**Author:** ![AzRaek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/azraek/32/16739_2.png) [@AzRaek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AzRaek)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/29 "1999-12-09T02:56:00Z")

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Matt Damon and Ben Affleck?  
I think I have my fantasy for the week.

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John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt. That’s my name too.  
Wait, no it isn’t.

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**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/30 "1999-12-09T03:24:00Z")

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I don’t know how true this is, but I heard that Dave Foley and Kevin McDonald were the only two straight Kids in the Hall. Not that it matters, since they were funny as hell.

And Will (Will & Grace) is played by a straight guy.

But, I agree with Marxxx–I was watching Stark Raving Mad (please don’t judge me for that) and he can’t be straight. [idea] He should be Jack’s love interest on Will and Grace!! [/idea]  
I should be a casting director!

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And that’s just my opinion. I could be wrong.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/31 "1999-12-09T03:33:00Z")

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> UncleBeer  
> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;  
> I’ve gotta do something to drive Squrlcub over the edge here.  
> My vote is for Ed Asner

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Ed Asner???

I don’t count Fraiser and Niles as those characters are supposed to be played effeminate.

But that guy Berg on _Two Guys and a Girl_ is just way too fem.

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**Author:** ![Gail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Gail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gail)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/32 "1999-12-09T04:11:00Z")

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I agree with Laura about Richard on Caroline…I just wanted to shake Caroline and say,“Can’t you see he’s gay?”

Ned Flanders seems kind of effeminate to me.

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–Gail  
“Predictable, really I suppose. It was an act of purest optimism to have posed the question in the first place.” --John Cleese

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**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/33 "1999-12-09T06:19:00Z")

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It’s pretty much explicit now, but Smithers on _The Simpsons_ had lots of ‘clues’ early in the series that he was gay, though it wasn’t explicit at first.

And, more and more, it seems clear that Matt Groening, the _Simpons’_ creator, is gay (which is why there are so many gay jokes – with about half of them going over the heads of the hetero crowd).

The actor who plays Niles from _Frasier_ is out, so kudos to all you whose gaydar caught that one. The actor who plays Frasier is straight AFAIK.

Charles Nelson Reilly, Paul Lynde, and Rip Taylor never fooled anyone who wasn’t deaf and blind.

Rock Hudson fooled just about everyone. And there are a lot more out there who are fooling mostly everyone than there are the ‘obvious’ ones.

Peace.

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**Author:** ![Imthecowgodmoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Imthecowgodmoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imthecowgodmoo)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/34 "1999-12-09T06:45:00Z")

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It wasn’t until yesterday that I realized Graham Chapman from Monty Python was gay. He and his lover stayed together for close to 30 years, even adopted a kid, before he died of cancer in '89.

_::::Always look on the bright side of life…_

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“People must think it must be fun to be a super genuis,  
But they don’t realize how hard it is  
to put up with all the idiots in the world.”  
– Calvin and Hobbes  
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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/35 "1999-12-09T09:37:00Z")

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Without a doubt in my mind, the Hackett Brothers from Wings and Mork From Ork.

None of them fooled me for a minute.  
And Potsie, too.

Meg

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/36 "1999-12-09T10:02:00Z")

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> Oh and Nathan Lane? Come on, that guy’s gay.

A reporter asked Lane if he was gay and Lane answered “I’m a lifelong bachelor who loves Broadway show tunes and cooking. You do the math.”

As for Matt Groening, huh? I’m not saying he is or isn’t gay, but is there any more evidence of his being gay than the fact that he has some gay characters in his comic strip? After all, he was married, has two children, and created a number of straight characters as well.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/37 "1999-12-09T11:11:00Z")

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Rob Sitch.

Only, he’s Australian so nobody here will know who I mean.

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-PIGEONMAN-  
Hero For A New Millennium!

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**Author:** ![LemonGrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@LemonGrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LemonGrl)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/38 "1999-12-09T20:58:00Z")

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Rupert Everett is openly gay, isn’t he?

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“When I do right, no one ever remembers. When I do wrong, no one ever forgets.”

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/39 "1999-12-09T21:08:00Z")

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Sorry, Markxxx. Ed Asner was meant to be humorous since SqrlCub has an admitted lust for him. It is a pretty silly post in retrospect.

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“Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I’m worried about the difference between wrong and fun.”  
~P.J. O’Rourke~

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**Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/40 "1999-12-09T21:15:00Z")

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> I heard that Dave Foley and Kevin McDonald were the only two straight Kids in the Hall.

What about the episode where Scott Thompson says, “Hi. I’m Scott Thompson. Yeah, that’s right: the _fag_.” Seems to imply he’s the only one. But who knows. I liked Scott’s flamingly gay monologist character “Buddy”. IIRC, he compared the offense he felt being confused for an American like being confused for a straight guy. Very funny.

The point is, all Canadians are gay. I think.

What’s the official word on John Waters?

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If I wanted smoke blown up my ass, I’d be at home with a pack of cigarettes and a short length of hose.

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