# The least convincing hetrosexual on TV **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 8, 1999, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300 "1999-12-08T05:07:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Cowboy\_Greg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Cowboy\_Greg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowboy_Greg)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/41 "1999-12-09T21:20:00Z")
John Waters came out several years ago, not that there was much doubt before that… * * * Shared pain is lessened; shared joy is increased. ---
**Author:** ![chief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@chief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chief)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/42 "1999-12-09T22:02:00Z")
hey, moriah how do you know that Matt Groening is gay? the jokes dont neccessarily mean anything i dont even think he does much on the show any morebesides advising… * * * Chief’s Domain - [http://www.seas.ucla.edu/~ravi](http://www.seas.ucla.edu/~ravi) ---
**Author:** ![Odieman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a87d85/32.png) [@Odieman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odieman)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/43 "1999-12-09T23:03:00Z")
Not only is Nathan Lane gay , but his significant other, ( Ernie Sabella) played the naked fat guy on the subway on Seinfeld, but he and Ernie did the voices for Timon and Pumba in the Lion King * * * You want brilliance BEFORE I’ve had my coffee!!! ---
**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 1999, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/44 "1999-12-09T23:04:00Z")
Even better did you catch _The Simpsons_ episode where John Waters played the gay friend John? One of the gags was him getting caught by Waylon after cancelling a date to hang out with the family. One of Waters trademarks is to cast against type, mostly gays as straight and vice versa. If you haven’t seen a J.W. movie start in the shallow end of the pool with _Cry Baby_ or _Hairspray_. Slowly work your way to _Pink Flamongoes_. I was personally crushed when my mom told me about Jodie Foster. I almost drove us into a bridge abutment. * * * It’s your fault that I have no one to blame but myself. ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 1999, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/45 "1999-12-10T01:59:00Z")
Pokemon - James is the blue haired one on Team Rocket. I saw an episode where his estranged billionaire parents tried to force him into a marriage of convenience with another billionaire’s daughter. Not surprisingly, James resisted - vehemently!!! ---
**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 1999, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/46 "1999-12-10T04:22:00Z")
- > [@](#): > > UncleBeer >             > Sorry, Markxxx. Ed Asner was meant to be humorous since SqrlCub has an admitted lust for him. It is a pretty silly post in retrospect - Since the OP was not who is gay but who can’t play straight, even if she/he is straight I thought Ed Asner was funny. I mean he doesn’t seem at all gay…But you never know eh? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 1999, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/47 "1999-12-10T14:45:00Z")
I never knew John Waters was gay til I read a recent interview. I just thought he was weird(which is good!).I still love him. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 1999, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/48 "1999-12-10T14:45:00Z")
Heres a xmas present for Squrlcub: Ed Asner and Santa are coming to see you tonight! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 1999, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/49 "1999-12-10T16:10:00Z")
> [@](#): > > A reporter asked Lane if he was gay and Lane answered “I’m a lifelong bachelor who loves Broadway show tunes and cooking. You do the math.” > [@](#): > > Rupert Everett is openly gay, isn’t he? But, see, I _know_ that Natan Lane and Rupert Everett are gay. And so does everyone else. You see, I tried to pick several gentlemen who are openly… Oh, forget it. It wasn’t very funny anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Guy\_Incognito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guy_incognito/32/3920_2.png) [@Guy\_Incognito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guy_Incognito)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 1999, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/50 "1999-12-10T20:56:00Z")
I always thought that John Ritter’s character, Jack Tripper, on “Three’s Company” seemed gay even though he was supposed to be a straight guy pretending he was gay. What I mean is, when “Jack” wasn’t pretending to be gay, he still seemed kind of gay anyway. Ahh, dammit–you know what i mean… Also Mr. Mackey on South Park doesn’t seem 100% hetero, either. (Duh!) ---
**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 1999, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/51 "1999-12-11T07:57:00Z")
You should read Matt Groening’s non-Simpsons strips. Lots of gay gags, especially with those two look-alike guys in fezzes (Jeff and Ahab??) who “may be brothers or lovers or both.” And though MG only has an advising role in the Simpsons now, cutting edge gay humor (at least by pop TV standards) was in the series from the start. And would a straight MG be saying, “Hey, really like the huge amount of gay jokes, keep adding more!” Yeah, it’s circumstantial, but so was all the evidence for Liberace until the palimony suit came out. Peace. “Not that there’s anything _wrong_ with it.” ---
**Author:** ![Cabbage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@Cabbage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabbage)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 1999, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/52 "1999-12-11T09:08:00Z")
Speaking of John Waters, I heard a rumor a few years ago that he has AIDS. Does anyone know if this is true? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 1999, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/53 "1999-12-11T12:29:00Z")
Sorry stoli, didn’t intend to step on your joke but it reminded me of Lane’s quote which I thought was funny enough to post. As for Matt Groening’s orientation, I think it would take a lot more evidence than three of his characters being gay. After all, using the same logic you could claim he’s a closet rabbit. Incidentally, the two brothers/lovers/whatever from _Life in Hell_ are Akbar and Jeff. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 1999, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/54 "1999-12-11T21:18:00Z")
Cabbage,no! I doubt it. I hope not! ---
**Author:** ![Whammo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@Whammo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whammo)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 1999, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/55 "1999-12-23T05:57:00Z")
ummm… Padeye… what ABOUT Jodie Foster?? _please dont say it… please dont say it… it just cant be true_ ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 1999, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/56 "1999-12-23T13:59:00Z")
Well, B Line, I hate to have to break this to you, but the rumors that Jodie Foster is a lesbian have been out there for years. As far as I know, she has always refused to answer any questions about her sexual orientation. On the one hand, there was a number of rumors that she had an affair with Kelly McGillis during the filming of _The Accused_. On the other hand, her brother wrote a tell-all biography in which IIRC he says Jodie is straight but other members of their family are gay, which is why she won’t discuss the subject. I doubt anyone on the board is likely to know the truth of the matter. ---
**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 1999, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/57 "1999-12-23T20:19:00Z")
Sorry to upset you B\_line12. I got that second hand from my mom but she got it from my brother. He lives in San Francisco, is a musician and hair color specialist… However you do the math I trust him for the SD on that topic. I actually wasn’t that upset though. I saw her _Nell_ and found she was **much** too skinny for my taste. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 1999, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/58 "1999-12-25T23:35:00Z")
Lesbian or not, I still love Jodie Foster…like I had a chance with her anyway? I’ve often wondered about Matt Groening, too. I thought he had a wife and kids (not that w&k are _guarantees_)…but his gay humor is just so damn **good**. And Akbar & Jeff are quite believable and endearing characters. Maybe Matt’s just clever and has lots of gay friends. Well, we already _know_ he’s clever… ---
**Author:** ![Jorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@Jorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jorge)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 1999, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/59 "1999-12-26T08:21:00Z")
Paul Schaffer ? Peter Jennings ? ---
**Author:** ![whitetho](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whitetho/32/1059_2.png) [@whitetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whitetho)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 1999, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-least-convincing-hetrosexual-on-tv/12300/60 "1999-12-26T15:02:00Z")
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