# The left hates free speech **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 12, 2013, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-hates-free-speech/673720 "2013-11-12T13:39:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-hates-free-speech/673720/161 "2013-11-14T19:53:00Z")
The OP has a weak understanding of free speech. Brown is a private university and private property and they can invite or disinvite or make whatever rules they want about speech. Racists have the right to free speech, but not at my house. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-hates-free-speech/673720/162 "2013-11-14T21:05:10Z")
A classic “Shoe” cartoon by Jeff MacNelly showed the reporter bringing in an expose about how a minority of people can control what the public has access to, forming a choke-point in the flow of free information. The newspaper editor wads it up and throws it away and says, “That’s not news.” ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-hates-free-speech/673720/163 "2013-11-14T22:25:59Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > Thank you. The major failing of the SDA, beyond the textual and rights issues, is that it _doesn’t_ take money out of politics, instead it criminalizes contributions & expenditures made only by business interests, while permitting those made by labor interests, ecological interests, religious interests, single-issue groups like the AARP and NRA, and any other group one can think of. I totally agree with you, that is a major shortcoming (in my opinion) of the first version. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-hates-free-speech/673720/164 "2013-11-15T13:10:03Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I totally agree with you, that is a major shortcoming (in my opinion) of the first version. And I agree that (careful) reform is needed, and see merit in public financing. How far we’ve come ;): > [@Hubris: The Iraq War](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hubris-the-iraq-war/650759/310): > > **Human Action** and I really don’t agree on very much. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-hates-free-speech/673720/165 "2013-11-15T14:55:04Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > > [@Ravenman](#): > > > > **Human Action** and I really don’t agree on very much. > > How far we’ve come ;): I am feeling compelled to disagree with you… for something. ---
**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-hates-free-speech/673720/166 "2013-11-15T17:04:06Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > A much better approach is to require transparency when corporations of any kind, including unions and non profits, are involved. Then we can boycott and shame those who use their money to promote stupid and harmful things. Why of _course!_ That’s worked out _very_ well WRT the Koch bro’s, Chik-fil-eh, Hobby Lobby, The NRA, the AFA, et. al. Exactly how do you propose to impart shame to a non-person - or, for that matter, to an individual or collective that has no shame? ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-hates-free-speech/673720/167 "2013-11-15T21:56:10Z")
> [@SeldomSeen](#): > > Why of _course!_ That’s worked out _very_ well WRT the Koch bro’s, Chik-fil-eh, Hobby Lobby, The NRA, the AFA, et. al. > > Exactly how do you propose to impart shame to a non-person - or, for that matter, to an individual or collective that has no shame? Twitter. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-hates-free-speech/673720.md?page=8)