# The "Left" on Fox. Pretty-Damn-Impressive. Uh, not. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 28, 2012, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092 "2012-10-28T01:10:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/21 "2012-10-29T19:29:32Z")
I don’t think that applies to Scarborough, and he has his own show every AM. Whether that applies to the others… I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/22 "2012-10-29T19:35:49Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > The “liberals” who appear on Fox News serve the purpose of a punching bag and nothing more. > > Similarly to the “conservatives” who appear on MSNBC. > > Only CNN tries to actually have a decent conversation/debate between the two sides. Oh no, not the dreaded false equivalency bs again. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/23 "2012-10-29T19:36:53Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > OK, then the OP is wrong. There are plenty of good ol’ lefties who appear regularly on FoxNews. Names? ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/24 "2012-10-29T19:37:32Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Oh no, not the dreaded false equivalency bs again. I watch all 3 networks somewhat regularly, and that’s how it comes off to me. Sorry if you disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/25 "2012-10-29T19:38:19Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > The “liberals” who appear on Fox News serve the purpose of a punching bag and nothing more. > > Similarly to the “conservatives” who appear on MSNBC. > > Only CNN tries to actually have a decent conversation/debate between the two sides. I agree with this. Of the three main ones (CNN, FOX, and MSNBC) only CNN makes a concerted effort to be neutral. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/26 "2012-10-29T19:41:28Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > I agree with this. Of the three main ones (CNN, FOX, and MSNBC) only CNN makes a concerted effort to be neutral. And how do they do this, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/27 "2012-10-29T19:44:37Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > I watch all 3 networks somewhat regularly, and that’s how it comes off to me. Sorry if you disagree. Of course MSNBC isn’t neutral but FOX News doesn’t even make an attempt to put legitimate representative of the other side on their network. MSNBC does a somewhat better job in that regard. CNN is just garbage. They try so hard to be “neutral” that they lose any sort of objectivity whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/28 "2012-10-29T19:57:27Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > And how do they do this, exactly? By the language used, by the art used in reporting a story, by the way the headlines are written on the website. It’s subtle if you aren’t looking for it. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/29 "2012-10-29T19:58:35Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Of course MSNBC isn’t neutral but FOX News doesn’t even make an attempt to put legitimate representative of the other side on their network. MSNBC does a somewhat better job in that regard. > > CNN is just garbage. They try so hard to be “neutral” that they lose any sort of objectivity whatsoever. How can you try to so hard to be neutral that you lose all objectivity? That doesn’t even make sense. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/30 "2012-10-29T20:07:54Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > How can you try to so hard to be neutral that you lose all objectivity? That doesn’t even make sense. I actually agree with Ambivalid that trying too hard to be neutral can make you lose your objectivity. For example, if a republican says, “The moon is made of cheese”, someone trying to remain neutral would not call them out on this demonstrably false lie. They might report it as, “Consensus not yet reached on composition of lunar surface.” However, even though CNN might engage in the fallacy of being “too neutral” when it is unwarranted, that doesn’t at all address what I was talking about, that is, the banter between the pundits. On MSNBC and on Fox News, the pundits just constantly bash one side. There is no thoughtful dialogue. I actually like the disagreements and debates, and the panels that CNN has, regardless of overall that they are too neutral. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/31 "2012-10-29T20:09:33Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > How can you try to so hard to be neutral that you lose all objectivity? That doesn’t even make sense. Sure it does. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/32 "2012-10-29T20:16:46Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Sure it does. I understand what you meant now. But I think CNN does a pretty decent job, especially during this election, of calling out both sides on the BS. I completely agree with you on the so-called “liberals” on Fox News. They are ridiculous for the most part. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/33 "2012-10-29T22:13:37Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Names? Al Sharpton Sally Kohn Bob Beckel Charlie Rangel Debbie Wasserman Schultz. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/34 "2012-10-29T22:20:11Z")
> [@Enlightening\_Meditation](#): > > Dick Morris frequently appears on Fox News to offer his ‘Left’ views. He’s a former adviser/campaign manager to former President Clinton and likely no longer a Democrat. > > [Dick Morris on Hannity for example](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlTTZ-CHtDY&feature=related) Dick Morris never WAS a Democrat. I remember being puzzled by Clinton choosing him as his adviusor and campaign manager exactly BECAUSE he wasn’t a Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/35 "2012-10-30T01:02:16Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > So who does MSNBC put on regularly to make their channel more fair or balanced? MSNBC doesn’t pretend to be fair and balanced. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/36 "2012-10-30T01:55:05Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Al Sharpton > Sally Kohn > Bob Beckel > Charlie Rangel > Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Al Sharpton is a host on MSNBC, I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve ever seen him featured on FOX. Bob Beckel is a joke. Charlie Rangel…I’ve never seen him on Fox. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, ok so you got ONE. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/37 "2012-10-30T12:40:34Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > MSNBC doesn’t pretend to be fair and balanced. Many here pretend that they are though. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/38 "2012-10-30T12:41:26Z")
It sounds to me that Fox’s idea of fair and balanced is having 4 Conservatives against 1liberal or moderate, and then having them talk over the liberal or moderate, so he/she can’t be heard. Never having a good word for Obama, even when Osama was killed doesn’t sound fair to me.Un-afraid…well apparently not ,but maybe they should be? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/39 "2012-10-30T14:04:13Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Al Sharpton is a host on MSNBC, I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve ever seen him featured on FOX. You must have a lot of fingers! He’s on O’Reilly quite often. > [@](#): > > Bob Beckel is a joke. Says you. > [@](#): > > Charlie Rangel…I’ve never seen him on Fox. You watch it 24/7? > [@](#): > > Debbie Wasserman Schultz, ok so you got ONE. No, I got 5. And I didn’t count the late Geraldine Ferraro, since she is no longer with us. ---
**Author:** ![GreenElf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@GreenElf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenElf)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092/40 "2012-10-30T16:00:35Z")
The CNN host allows the guest enough time to discuss their view without interruption (except for commercial break which is about every 3 minutes). A FOX host will typically interrupt and ridicule any views being expressed by a guest who is a democrat or liberal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-left-on-fox-pretty-damn-impressive-uh-not/639092.md?page=1)