# The Librarians (new TNT show--spoilers probably) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 9, 2014, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740 "2014-12-09T07:13:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/21 "2014-12-11T14:59:28Z")
I enjoyed it well enough, but I kept expecting Timothy Hutton to show up. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/22 "2014-12-11T18:19:16Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Saw the first half of the pilot last night, I liked it - it really does feel cheesy, but in a good way (loved _Relic Hunter_) Must check out the movies. At this point I like the movies better. Noah Wylie’s character has grown to be annoying. Starting out he was more fun. I just watched the pilot on demand. Which was actually the first two episodes together. I liked it. It was light and fun. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/23 "2014-12-12T15:22:22Z")
If you do not get TNT (or you missed it) - the 1st two episodes will be on CW tonight (Friday) I liked the movies so it will probably give it a shot Brian ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/24 "2014-12-13T00:18:08Z")
Commercials make it look sort of like Warehouse 13. Is it easy to follow if you haven’t seen any of the previous Librarian TV movies? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/25 "2014-12-13T01:11:39Z")
We watched part of the first episode last night. I have seen only the first movie. Was Wylie the Librarian? I thought he was Newhart’s assistant. One wonders if the series copied _Warehouse 13_, or _Warehouse 13_ copied the Librarian films. _Warehouse 13_ reminded me of _the Librarian_, so I vote for the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Boogly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Boogly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boogly)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/26 "2014-12-13T06:15:01Z")
This show looks like the 80’s. Cheap scenery, terrible fight scenes, groaner one liners, wtf is this plot, kinda stuff. Is it an awesome show? Maybe not but it makes me chuckle is so many different ways. I can’t wait to watch some more. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/27 "2014-12-16T02:17:56Z")
I saw him in the credits, but it was still a shock to see Matt Frewer (aka Max Headroom) Brian ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/28 "2014-12-16T02:27:40Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Commercials make it look sort of like Warehouse 13. > > Is it easy to follow if you haven’t seen any of the previous Librarian TV movies? I haven’t seen any of the movies and had no problems following. ---
**Author:** ![Boggette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@Boggette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boggette)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/29 "2014-12-16T16:52:03Z")
Did anyone else get the Wolfram & Hart vibe off this last episode? I thought I was going to see Angel pop in at any moment. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/30 "2014-12-16T18:44:36Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > We watched part of the first episode last night. I have seen only the first movie. Was Wylie the Librarian? I thought he was Newhart’s assistant. > One wonders if the series copied _Warehouse 13_, or _Warehouse 13_ copied the Librarian films. _Warehouse 13_ reminded me of _the Librarian_, so I vote for the latter. To be fair, it’s not like Warehouse 13 was a unique fascinating original flower of a concept. I think any creative who saw the ending of Raiders of the Lost Ark has thought… “What if…” ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/31 "2014-12-16T19:12:30Z")
This so reminds me of the Friday the 13th Series back in the late 80s. I suspect the ‘find the magical objects’ trope has been done long before that. ---
**Author:** ![howye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@howye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/howye)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/32 "2014-12-16T20:06:33Z")
Saw it described as an American Doctor Who, or at least trying to channel that vibe. Watched the pilot with Wylie and he very much seem to be channeling Tennant and Smith. It would have been more enjoyable if I had not been thinking this the whole time. The pilot came off as derivative and not very creative, the crown story could have been a Who script. However, the first real episode was entertaining if not very deep. The show is aiming for fun and hit it. It earned a spot on the DVR. Besides, any show with Laroquette as a regular and promises a guest appearance by Bruce Campbell has my attention. I have not seen the movies, was Wylie’s character the same in those? Because they predate the new Who by a year. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/33 "2014-12-16T20:33:10Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > We watched part of the first episode last night. I have seen only the first movie. Was Wylie the Librarian? I thought he was Newhart’s assistant. > One wonders if the series copied _Warehouse 13_, or _Warehouse 13_ copied the Librarian films. _Warehouse 13_ reminded me of _the Librarian_, so I vote for the latter. Wylie is the Librarian. Newhart and Curtin are his mentors. (Although the third movie hints at some major backstory for Newhart.) The first _Librarian_ movie aired in 2004. _Warehouse 13_ premiered in 2009. > [@howye](#): > > I have not seen the movies, was Wylie’s character the same in those? Because they predate the new Who by a year. Yup. Wylie’s character becomes the rookie Librarian in the first movie, and gets more comfortable with the job in the next two. It looks like he is going to be a background character in the series (sort of like Newhart and Curtin were in the movies). ---
**Author:** ![BrassyPhrase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@BrassyPhrase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrassyPhrase)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/34 "2014-12-17T02:26:30Z")
> [@Boggette](#): > > Did anyone else get the Wolfram & Hart vibe off this last episode? I thought I was going to see Angel pop in at any moment. VERY much. I’m enjoying it the same way I enjoyed Buffy/Angel. One reviewer of the show (and the comments for it) talked about Kane reminding them of a character he played in another show. (Legit maybe?) But I keep being reminded of Angel. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/35 "2014-12-17T02:33:59Z")
Who is Kane? I cannot but think of Robert E. Howard. His Kane was good at this sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![BrassyPhrase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@BrassyPhrase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrassyPhrase)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/36 "2014-12-17T02:47:39Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Who is Kane? > I cannot but think of Robert E. Howard. > His Kane was good at this sort of thing. Christian Kane is the actor that plays the Jr. Librarian that’s the fighting oil patch working/ classicist knowledge having guy. The character he played worked for the big ‘E’ Evil lawfim Wolfram & Hart on Angel. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/37 "2014-12-17T02:59:08Z")
> [@BrassyPhrase](#): > > Christian Kane is the actor that plays the Jr. Librarian that’s the fighting oil patch working/ classicist knowledge having guy. The character he played worked for the big ‘E’ Evil lawfim Wolfram & Hart on Angel. Thanks. The actor would make a good [Solomon Kane](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Kane). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/38 "2014-12-17T03:03:00Z")
> [@link](#): > > First published in Weird Tales, June 1929. In Germany Kane meets a traveler named Gaston L’Armon, who seems familiar to Kane, and together they take rooms in the Cleft Skull Tavern. Jesus, only Conan or Solomon Kane would spend the night at the Cleft Skull Tavern with a suspicious fellow. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/39 "2014-12-19T19:35:51Z")
We watched the second episode last night. Not bad. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BrassyPhrase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@BrassyPhrase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrassyPhrase)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740/40 "2014-12-22T19:21:23Z")
Bruce Campbell as Santa was awesome! What a cute episode (I even liked the schmaltzy ending a bit). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-librarians-new-tnt-show-spoilers-probably/706740.md?page=3)