# The Lincoln Project **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 10, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550 "2020-05-10T20:51:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/241 "2020-10-18T23:28:12Z")
This is my position, too. I haven’t sent them a dime and don’t plan to. If the analysis by November 3 is that LP hasn’t placed many ads in swing states, then that should be widely reported. We don’t know that the Democrats (presumably) who sent them money would, if LP didn’t exist, have sent money, instead, into competitive Senate races. Maybe they would have given their money ONLY to what is, for them, entertainment. If the LP brass are con artists, then shame on them. Let them be exposed by solid reporting. At least we’ve learned that there is a lot of potential profit in catering to the tastes of people who despise Trumpism. I guess that knowledge is a fair trade for letting Kurt Bardella make a few mortgage payments. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/242 "2020-10-18T23:37:46Z")
There’s a Trump merch clearance sale [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/9_HHWz1AA14/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump Forced To Sell Discounted Merch As Campaign Cash Dries Up") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_HHWz1AA14) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/243 "2020-10-18T23:52:05Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > If the analysis by November 3 is that LP hasn’t placed many ads in swing states, then that should be widely reported. I’ve wondered all along where these ads were played. The only ones I’ve seen have been on You Tube. I don’t watch a lot of TV, so I’m far from the best resource- but I haven’t seen any on television. Literally all of them have been on You Tube, and that’s easy, because once you click one, the rest get recommended. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/244 "2020-10-18T23:55:26Z")
Right, and that reaches only those who already despise the man. ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/245 "2020-10-19T00:06:30Z")
The only reason I brought up pilots was, as it pertains to the Sully commercial - people like that are not, generally, as a rule, going to like someone like Trump who’s the exact opposite of precision and attention to detail. Pilots are rigidly indoctrinated in following procedures, having plans, and being responsible. They may be a hard-partying lot _when they’re off the clock_, but during the time when they’re actually doing their jobs - which, for most of them, is what they live for - they have to be the epitome of organized, controlled, focused, and careful. And so of course these people are GENERALLY not going to be on board with someone like Trump. They may be Republicans, but NOT the kind that are actively enthusiastic about Trump. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/246 "2020-10-20T18:18:55Z")
I imagine that any $$$ left over will be used in future campaigns. I don’t expect LP to go away just because they accomplish (assuming that they do, of course) their primary objective. They could become another influence group in the Republican party pushing for acceptable (to them) candidates. How they’d be able to fund raise once they’ve slain the dragon is, of course, another question. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/247 "2020-10-21T16:25:55Z")
They just put up some billboards in NC - one of them is in my county. > ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/248 "2020-10-21T22:41:41Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Not so sure Bijou, I think they just want to fly. And want ‘free’ training to be able to do so. Becoming a military pilot is an arduous task I’m sure. And few make the cut. The career path after that is pretty obvious. My Dad and two brothers are pilots. They just love to fly. All three started out in the military, then moved to commercial while flying for the AF Reserves or Air National Guard. None of them are Republicans although one brother claims to be independent. The other brother and my Dad are Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/249 "2020-10-22T00:29:42Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > They just put up some billboards in NC - one of them is in my county. > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/rcdimezzo/status/1318628788574556160) Whether they did it in response to criticism, or intended to do it all along, the result is good and useful. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/250 "2020-10-24T15:38:26Z")
“Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump have threatened to sue the Lincoln Project, if the anti-Trump Republicans do not remove two huge billboards from Times Square in New York City, in which they accuse the senior White House advisers of showing “indifference” to Americans suffering and dying under Covid-19.” They’re getting under someone’s skin. That’s great, but I want to see results in the vote! > **[Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump threaten to sue Lincoln Project](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/24/jared-kushner-ivanka-trump-lincoln-project)** > > Anti-Trump Republicans’ Times Square billboards accuse advisers of showing ‘indifference’ to Americans suffering amid pandemic ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/251 "2020-10-24T21:34:25Z")
Lincoln Project is not being particularly conciliatory towards the threat of a libel suit: > [@](#): > > “ **While we truly enjoy living rent-free in their heads, their empty threats will not be taken any more seriously than we take Ivanka and Jared.** It is unsurprising that an administration that has never had any regard or understanding of our constitution would try to trample on our first amendment rights. But we fully intend on making this civics lesson as painful as possible. > > “ **Jared and Ivanka have always been entitled, out-of-touch bullies, who have never given the slightest indication they have any regard for the American people.** We plan on showing them the same level of respect. The billboards will stay up. We consider it important that in Times Square, the crossroads of the world, people are continuously reminded of the cruelty or density and staggering lack of empathy the Trumps and the Kushners have displayed towards the American people.” ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/252 "2020-10-25T02:09:40Z")
Typical Trump bullshit bluster that will never result in a lawsuit. And if they are actually dumb enough to proceed they will likely lose after spending ridiculous sums of money on lawyers. ---
**Author:** ![RyanAdam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@RyanAdam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyanAdam)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/253 "2020-10-25T12:53:57Z")
I hope they stay. I gave a lot, I am not a Dem, wasn’t going to give to Dems, but was glad to have a way to fight back internally against Trumpism. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/254 "2020-10-25T17:23:24Z")
> [@RyanAdam](#): > > I hope they stay. I recently heard one of the founding members say they intend to continue to fight Trumpism long past the election in their quest to restore their party, or in some cases former party, to some semblance of decency. I hope this gives you a measure of comfort. It did me, and I am now a registered Democrat after having been a fierce independent for most of my voting life – which now spans more than 40 years. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/255 "2020-10-31T18:45:05Z")
In which The Lincoln Project calls Trump a turd sandwich. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/3BpV8JklgY4/maxresdefault.jpg "Seriously") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BpV8JklgY4) I guess all I can say for the time being is that for a bunch of Republicans, they’re not toeing the party line, which is something. That they actively endorsed Biden is another. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/256 "2020-11-02T19:02:53Z")
That’s a great one. Too bad his followers are immune to ads like that since they’ve already developed a turd mentality. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/257 "2020-11-03T05:22:26Z")
I missed this one. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/jS8SUqqZD5k/maxresdefault.jpg "The Walk of Shame") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS8SUqqZD5k) ---
**Author:** ![RyanAdam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@RyanAdam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyanAdam)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/258 "2020-11-07T20:36:09Z")
Yes although I am not becoming a Democrat ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/259 "2020-11-10T03:29:59Z")
Is there any chance they can make one more advertisement for an audience of one that says: Just like we thought, you are not man enough to accept defeat and show some class. We always knew you were too petty to show ‘high class’ demeanor and polish so you COULD have a shot in 2024. Now we just HOPE you do run so we can humiliate you again because now we KNOW we have you nailed! Just something to get him to think: Oh yea, that’s what YOU think, I CAN resign with dignity and class! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/260 "2020-11-10T11:21:16Z")
As long as the donators keep track of what’s going on, it doesn’t matter what their intent is. As long as, if they don’t do what you want them to do, you stop paying them, they will wind up doing what you want them to do or no longer exist. We saw that with swing state issue. People noticed no ads in swing states, and suddenly they had to make them. If people notice their ads are bad, they’d have to make better ones. (Though, in my opinion, they hit the same way as Republican ads do. The only problem I have is that they label all their ads with their name on YouTube, making them harder to share without people dismissing them because they know where they come from. There’s a reason modern political ads put who “supports this message” at the end.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550.md?page=14)