# The Lincoln Project **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 10, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550 "2020-05-10T20:51:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/281 "2020-12-07T01:49:51Z")
More of _everyone_ came out to vote in 2020. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/282 "2020-12-07T02:00:05Z")
Yeah, well pardon me for not giving Republicans a lot of credit for Biden’s victory that they are afraid to publicly acknowledge. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/283 "2020-12-07T12:05:12Z")
This is pure grift and it makes me very sad that people are so desperate for validation that they can’t see it. > ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/284 "2020-12-07T13:48:49Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Yeah. Any Republican before. Trump owns the Republican fealty. He owns them like he has fucking dirt on them, it’s sick. Case in point - Lindsey Grahm. I thought there where going to be videos of Jeffery Epsteins parties. And it seems odd that it took weeks to raid his private island after they arrested him. And he conveniently commits suicide. Uh, huh. I think that someone, or ones, has a boatload of videos. And what’s going on with Ghislaine Maxwell? Yeah, it sounds like I’m a CTer. And I guess I’m about this. But jeeze. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/285 "2020-12-07T20:39:54Z")
regarding Epstein I recall the line from Henry Hill in Goodfellas “they can kill me in prison easier than on the outside”. because Henry broke the mafia rule by selling drugs. Maxwell is still in jail and has been since July. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/286 "2020-12-10T07:17:16Z")
> Color me shocked. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/287 "2020-12-10T09:36:26Z")
The Lincoln Project was more about boosting the morale of those opposing Trump, and prompting Trump to say more dumb things, than persuasion. I don’t know how much it helped Biden win, but I don’t have a problem with those two goals. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/288 "2020-12-10T10:53:45Z")
The Lincoln Project was about a bunch of Republican political operatives having to find themselves a new source of income after their never-Trump statements made their usual client list dry up. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/289 "2020-12-10T15:53:05Z")
I’m fine with that. They said things that needed to be said. Our only hope if that there will be relatively rational people on both sides of the political divide in this country. Never-Trump Republicans could fill that role. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/290 "2020-12-10T16:32:32Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The Lincoln Project was more about boosting the morale of those opposing Trump, and prompting Trump to say more dumb things, than persuasion. I don’t know how much it helped Biden win, but I don’t have a problem with those two goals. > [@Procrustus](#): > > I’m fine with that. They said things that needed to be said. Our only hope if that there will be relatively rational people on both sides of the political divide in this country. Never-Trump Republicans could fill that role. Right. They said the things in their attack ads that we wished the Democrats would have. Republicans really know how to run an attack ad… ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/291 "2020-12-10T17:18:10Z")
Rick Wilson tweeted the other day that LP’s goal was to personally distract Donald Trump and cause him to make poor campaign-related decisions out of anger and vindictiveness. It probably achieved those goals to at least some extent but, in true Republican fashion, they didn’t neglect to enrich themselves along the way. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/292 "2021-01-01T23:20:34Z")
For those of you that thought they were just riding the “Dumptrump” coattails, here is news: > **[Lincoln Project Attacks Perdue, Loeffler for Trying to Suppress Voters](https://www.newsweek.com/lincoln-project-video-attacks-perdue-loeffler-georgia-voters-1558418)** > > Two runoff elections in Georgia on January 5 will decide control of the U.S. Senate for the next two years. _The Lincoln Project released a new ad on Thursday criticizing Republican Senators Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue and endorsing their Democratic opponents in the upcoming U.S. Senate runoff elections in Georgia._ _The conservative group, which opposed the re-election of President [Donald Trump](https://www.newsweek.com/topic/donald-trump), highlighted the Republicans’ criticism of Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and accused them of wanting to take away voting rights._ _“They’re at it again,” the Lincoln Project tweeted. “Perdue & [#KKKelly](https://twitter.com/hashtag/KKKelly?src=hashtag_click) stand with @realDonaldTrump. We’ve come too far to go back to Jim Crow.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/293 "2021-01-02T00:53:24Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > For those of you that thought they were just riding the “Dumptrump” coattails, here is news: My impression is that these people actually _are_ ‘conservatives for democracy,’ and not merely grifters, as some have charged. I guess time will tell. But as you point out, this action against Perdue and Loeffler seems to support the idea that the Lincoln Project people do want the actual grifters out. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/294 "2021-01-02T02:43:58Z")
Where is this ad being run? All I see is that it has been released. They can’t continue to raise money from supporters without having a target, now that loser donnie is out. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/295 "2021-01-02T03:42:45Z")
You keep using that word- “can’t”. I do not think that word means what you think it means. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/296 "2021-01-02T04:12:21Z")
All the handwringing about motives is, in my opinion, irrelevant, for the same reason they’re irrelevant for any other type of ad. What matters is the messaging. If they only care about money and find the way to make that money is to be anti-Trump and anti-authoritarian, that’s a good thing! If they’re showing you can be Republican and not be a racist traitor who attempts a coup on our government, I don’t care so much about whether they “truly believe.” Just like I don’t care if Gillette really was against toxic masculinity, as they still put out a message condemning it. And I don’t care if the owner of Dove really cares about women. It’s good when monetary motivation and moral motivation align. That said, I did find the one leader’s talk on the Wilmore show to seem authentic, like he really does hate the racism in the Republican Party. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/297 "2021-01-02T04:33:34Z")
Asking if the ad is being run in the viewer market of the people who are actually able to vote in the election isn’t exactly _handwringing_. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/298 "2021-01-02T10:40:17Z")
This is a couple of weeks old but I don’t see it mentioned here: > **[Longtime GOP strategist Steve Schmidt announces he’s registering Democrat](https://thehill.com/homenews/news/530393-longtime-gop-strategist-steve-schmidt-announces-hes-registering-democrat/)** > > Longtime GOP strategist Steve Schmidt announced that he is registering as a Democrat after nearly 30 years with the Republican Party.Schmidt made the announcement during an episode of the “Ba… ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/299 "2021-01-02T17:32:43Z")
The Lincoln Project people are on MSNBC all the time. All. The. Time. If you heard them discussing their feelings and insights about the current state of the Republican party, you would not doubt their sincerity in what they are trying to accomplish. Steve Schmidt is particularly gifted in articulating his views. Rick Wilson is wickedly witty. Susan Del Percio is excellent at expressing her outrage. I have no doubts about their intentions. They have all said they intend to continue to fight against Trumpism for as long as it takes. I don’t donate to them, but I appreciate their forthright opposition to the corrupt, unethical, un-American and frankly fascist behavior of Republicans at this point in time. ---
**Author:** ![RyanAdam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@RyanAdam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyanAdam)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550/300 "2021-01-12T18:45:09Z")
And people like me are supporting. I am in no way ready or willing to give to Left oriented Democrats (meaning like the “Squad”) but happy to fund Linvoln Project generously and centrist Democrats who they are comfortable with. A message to be sent to the neo-Confederates and quisling enablers. May yet change parties like Schmidt although not there yet. But getting close. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lincoln-project/853550.md?page=16)