# The lineup for the Trump-backed America250 Concert is a little sus

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [May 28, 2026, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lineup-for-the-trump-backed-america250-concert-is-a-little-sus/1030460 "2026-05-28T17:34:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> It’s more-or-less current slang for “suspicious” or “suspect.”

It’s old enough slang that my students roll their eyes at me when I use it.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
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Without Lionel Ritchie, seems like it’s the Pips, without Gladys Knight.

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**Post date:** [May 28, 2026, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lineup-for-the-trump-backed-america250-concert-is-a-little-sus/1030460/23 "2026-05-28T18:27:00Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> As with a lot of bands from the '70s and '80s which are still “active,” the current iteration of the band bears little resemblance to its heyday. In this case, the Commodores lineup currently consists of only one original member (William “WAK” King),

I figured that was case but still want them/him to tell trump to shove it where the sun don’t shine.

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> two of whom are sons of the group’s longtime drummer Walter Orange

Ok that’s an unusual twist on the usual old band line up 😉

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> It’s old enough slang that my students roll their eyes at me when I use it.

Yeah, got popular with the video game Among Us and that’s from 2018. Probably only slang for the old people now!

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It has a certain a peel.

Walter Orange is also the guy who sang: She’s a brick…house.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2026, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lineup-for-the-trump-backed-america250-concert-is-a-little-sus/1030460/26 "2026-05-28T18:57:10Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> got popular with the video game Among Us and that’s from 2018. Probably only slang for the old people now

Though for us real old fogeys (well the British ones who are into particular cultural influences) it’s short for Suspect Person. A part of the vagrancy act that was primarily used by the British police as a means to harass afro Carribean youth in 1980s Britain…

> **[Sus law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sus_law)**
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> This is an accepted version of this page 
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> In England and Wales, the sus law (from "suspected person") was a stop and search law that permitted a police officer to stop, search and potentially arrest people on suspicion of them being in breach of section 4 of the Vagrancy Act 1824. According to a 2018 study in the British Journal of Criminology, stop and search had a marginal impact on crime in the UK.
> The power to act on suspicion was found in part of section 4 of the Vagrancy Act 1824, whic...

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> [@HeyHomie](#):
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> Kid Rock and Ted Nugent are both pretty washed up, although for some reason MAGA insists on believing Kid is relevant.

This is something I’ve been confused about for a while now. Why does Kid Rock get any press at all? He had a couple of hits back in, what, 1999? And then he promptly vanished. In recent years his name has been popping up again, because of his association with Trump.

Was he _ever_ relevant?

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More, why does he get not only an Apache flyby of his house, but an actual flight? Who da fuq is this asshole? He looks more like he’d be happy going down town in a Camaro.

JAQ, former Camaro (1973) owner. I miss it

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AP has said that Milli Vanilli has backed out.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
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> [@GESancMan](#):
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> Why does Kid Rock get any press at all? He had a couple of hits back in, what, 1999? And then he promptly vanished. In recent years his name has been popping up again, because of his association with Trump.
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> Was he _ever_ relevant?

He shifted from hip-hop to country rock in the 2000s, and had a couple of top 40 hits (better than he ever charted as a rapper).

Mostly now, he gets social media time because he’s one of the few “name” celebrities (along with Nugent) who is proudly and publicly full-on MAGA. And, yes, neither of them have been “relevant” — as far as the music scene — for a long time.

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C+C Music Factory is just a shell now too. It was originally two producers, making music with various vocalists cycling through, with Freedom Williams and Zelma Davis being the most famous. One of the producers, David Cole, died. The other C, Robert Clivillés, is listed as a past member on Wikipedia. Freedom Williams bought the name in the early '00s.

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> The Milli Vanilli fake singing group is even faker than you think, because one of them died of a drug overdose back in '98 so the other half bought the rights to the name, hiring fill-ins.

Since only half the original group is there, I’d think they should be “Semi Vanilli”

“Milli Vanilli” would have to be only 1/1000 of the original group.

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But the original group was Milli Vanilli. With half the group gone, they would be 500 Micro Vanilli.

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Didn’t he do some modeling as “Milli The Model”?

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I have zero idea about their career progression after they were blown up for lip syncing. So, probably? Probably on some MTV show, some other reality show for washed up stars, etc.

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The remaining guy isn’t too bad of a singer actually. Won’t win any awards, but definitely good enough to sing Milli Vanilli fluff without embarrassing himself.

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I rather feel sorry for him (Rob Pilatus). He was made a fool of in a record producer’s quest to make money, and made into a villain when he was just doing what he had to do to survive.

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Looks like he’s jacking off two giraffes.

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> [@HeyHomie](#):
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> I rather feel sorry for him (Rob Pilatus).

Actually, Rob is the one who died in '96. The remaining one is Fab Morvan.

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Actually, Rob is the one who died in '96. The remaining one is Fab Morvan

My bad.

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