# The Lone Ranger: Film Opens July 3rd **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 21, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564 "2013-06-21T16:31:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/61 "2013-07-03T20:03:02Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Good Lord, don’t let them screw that up! Early talk was that they were going to set it in its original sixties time period. I hope they do that. I’m not overly familiar with MFU, but what I’ve seen is good (especially with the chemistry between its stars) and the overall ambience. Setting it in the sixties would accomplish two things: it would give the movie the show’s original impact of having an Eastern European good guy at a time when Cold War tensions were at one of their worst points, and it would make the movie stand out from all the other standard suspense spy thrillers. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/62 "2013-07-03T20:06:00Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Pirates of the Caribbean 5 Hate to break it to ya, but if that’s not a “Pirates or Tim Burton film”, then Disney has a serious problem on its hands. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/63 "2013-07-03T20:17:05Z")
> [@Airk](#): > > Johnny Depp is “typecasting himself in goofy roles”? When was the last time the man played someone who wasn’t on the far side of “eccentric”? The earliest film I can remember him in was Edward Scissorhands, FFS. The most -normal- character I’ve ever seen him play was J.M. Barrie in Finding Neverland, and that was still pretty weird. When has he ever not played in goofy roles? He played regular guys in From Hell, Nick of Time, and The Ninth Gate. But they weren’t exactly normal movies (or successes for that matter). ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/64 "2013-07-03T20:19:06Z")
> [@Hermione](#): > > Maybe they should have gotten whoever adapted Mask of Zorro to do this. That actually sounds like a recipe for a train wreck. Robert Rodriguez did the Zorro movies and lately he seems as bound and determined to turn everything into schlock (Machete) as Johnny Depp - the idea of _both_ of them working on this boggles the mind. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/65 "2013-07-03T20:30:53Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > That actually sounds like a recipe for a train wreck. Robert Rodriguez did the Zorro movies and lately he seems as bound and determined to turn everything into schlock (Machete) as Johnny Depp - the idea of _both_ of them working on this boggles the mind. Robert Rodriguez had nothing to do with The Mask of Zorro or The Legend of Zorro. They were directed by Martin Campbell, the same guy who made GoldenEye and Casino Royale. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/66 "2013-07-03T20:35:35Z")
This years John Carter? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/67 "2013-07-03T20:39:09Z")
> [@Hermione](#): > > Early talk was that they were going to set it in its original sixties time period. I hope they do that. I’m not overly familiar with MFU, but what I’ve seen is good (especially with the chemistry between its stars) and the overall ambience. > > Setting it in the sixties would accomplish two things: it would give the movie the show’s original impact of having an Eastern European good guy at a time when Cold War tensions were at one of their worst points, and it would make the movie stand out from all the other standard suspense spy thrillers. They will probably be fighting terrorists, and Illya will be one of those large busted Swedish women the Russians hired to advertise as tractor drivers. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/68 "2013-07-03T20:40:12Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > He played regular guys in From Hell, I enjoyed that film. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/69 "2013-07-03T20:49:43Z")
I’ve already heard from two friends that the talking Indian in the museum is a totally unnecessary and silly device designed to reach out to kids, cynically. ---
**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/70 "2013-07-03T21:12:47Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > This years John Carter? That is what I was thinking. This will bomb just as badly. As a movie, however, this appears to be a hard suck, while John Carter was just a soft suck. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/71 "2013-07-03T21:33:30Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > This years John Carter? Right now, it’s looking as Disney’s going to hope it only turns out as bad as \*\*John Carter \*\*did. I just heard David Edelstein’s review on NPR. He said **The Lone Ranger** was so immensely awful, it was beyond anyone’s imagination. In particular, he took issue with the film’s indigestable mix of genocidal massacres and nightmarishly sadistic scenes with attempted witty “buddy movie” banter and splapstick action sequences copied from Buster Keaton and Road Runner cartoons. He also basically accused Johnny Depp of being nothing more than an overrated overindulgent flake who’s forgotten how to give a real acting performance. [QUOTE=jsc1953] Johnny Depp will survive, of course. It’ll be interesting to see what happens to Armie Hammer, as his career is just taking off. Comparison to Klinton Spilsbury will be made. [/QUOTE] Whatever good will Depp’s generated from his previous films is soon going to be exhausted judging from the reaction to **The Lone Ranger**. Since he was the lead and main force behind the project, Depp (along director Gore Verbinski) are going to take much of the blame for what happens. I suspect Depp will have to do some form of penance in Hollywood if he’s ever to get back in good graces. As for Armie Hammer, I haven’t read or heard any truly biting criticism in even the film’s worst reviews but that’s because his Lone Ranger is so completely overshadowed by Depp’s Tonto. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/72 "2013-07-03T22:21:18Z")
1. Heard of it, never seen it. Not a big fan of Westerns. 2. Not a chance. It looks seriously lame. 3. n/a The thing is, when you compare Tonto with Jack Sparrow as “wacky” characters, did everybody making these movies miss the obvious? Jack Sparrow is weird but \*sexy \*(at least a lot of people seem to think so, including me). Tonto is just…weird. And ugly. And weird. I predict this movie will tank, and tank hard. It’ll pull in the hardcore Depp fans and a few curious teenagers the first weekend, but that’s about it. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/73 "2013-07-03T22:38:12Z")
> [@Hermione](#): > > I still haven’t seen it to judge, but I’m disappointed by the reaction. I was really hoping that this would be good, that it would bring the character to a new audience, that it would be well-liked. From what I’m reading (and granted, my opinion may be different), it seems like whoever adapted it was throwing in too many crazy elements just for their own sake. (Flesh-eating rabbits?!) The funny thing is that with all the crazy elements in there, there was actually more that were taken out because of the budget. I’ve read that the story originally had more supernatural stuff, including werewolves in it. ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/74 "2013-07-04T01:06:38Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > SF Chronicle gave it their lowest possible rating. (I’d link to it, but it’s a pay site). LA Times: “Uh-Oh, Silver!” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/75 "2013-07-04T01:06:56Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > I’ve read that the story originally had more supernatural stuff, including werewolves in it. Thereby explaining the silver bullets? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/76 "2013-07-04T01:17:43Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > SF Chronicle gave it their lowest possible rating. (I’d link to it, but it’s a pay site). If [this is the linkl](http://www.sfchronicle.com/movies/article/The-Lone-Ranger-review-Lawman-turns-antihero-4642814.php), it showed up for me. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/77 "2013-07-04T01:25:32Z")
[Not enough board cred?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=692002) ☹ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/78 "2013-07-04T01:32:14Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Thereby explaining the silver bullets? In the 19th century, giving someone a silver bullet implied that they had a social disease. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/79 "2013-07-04T03:05:25Z")
This movie actually appealed to me, I like Westerns made with modern adventure sensibilities. But the reviews all universally say it’s badly handled, so now I am disheartened. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564/80 "2013-07-04T05:58:15Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > In the 19th century, giving someone a silver bullet implied that they had a social disease. I think that was a quicksilver bullet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lone-ranger-film-opens-july-3rd/661564.md?page=5)