# The "Longest Election Campaign in Modern Canada" Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 2, 2015, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807 "2015-08-02T15:45:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/601 "2015-10-16T19:42:37Z")

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What struck me was that by the logic presented in the editorial, the G&M should be endorsing the NDP. The Conservative economic plan is the basis for their endorsement, and that plan is so good that the NDP plan is exactly the same. So I conclude that you actually can have the Conservative economy without Harper by voting orange. 😛

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/602 "2015-10-16T19:55:25Z")

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> [@orcenio](#):
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> If interested you can read the Globe’s Editor-in-Chief [David Walmsley respond](https://www.facebook.com/theglobeandmail/posts/10153602685703904) to some reader’s questions.

That format is very difficult to wade through. I saw some good questions, and some tactical evasions of said questions: did he ever answer the salient ones?

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/603 "2015-10-16T22:34:09Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> That format is very difficult to wade through. I saw some good questions, and some tactical evasions of said questions: did he ever answer the salient ones?

Not at all. Many comments directly addressed that fact too.

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/604 "2015-10-16T22:41:06Z")

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Shit’s going down at the National Post. Apparently when the NP’s editorial board got its standing orders to endorse the Tories Coyne agreed, but he had plans on personally endorsing another party (not surprising as while Coyne is a true-blue, small ‘c’ conservative he’s been one of the most vocal highlighter of the current government’s unethical behaviour).

However when the higher-up heard this they AXED his editorial. [Coyne might not stay](http://canadalandshow.com/article/andrew-coyne-v-national-post) if he is being censored like this.

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/605 "2015-10-16T23:32:13Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> So they endorse the party and want to pretend that Harper will somehow step down after a victory? This is insane.
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> It’s not an endorsement, it’s an immature fantasy/wish-fullfillment.
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> The Conservative Party of Canada is now the Harper Party. It’s the “Harper Government”.

One of my favorite mock endorsement/response

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> All of Lex Luthor’s minons, but not Lex Luthor.

[1](https://mobile.twitter.com/captainpearson/status/655088044555505664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/606 "2015-10-16T23:56:22Z")

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> [@orcenio](#):
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> However when the higher-up heard this they AXED his editorial. [Coyne might not stay](http://canadalandshow.com/article/andrew-coyne-v-national-post) if he is being censored like this.

If the Tories lose, the CBC might still be around and Coyne will replace Rex Murphy on Cross Canada Checkup.

Pretending to care what callers say couldn’t be any worse than writing that shit for the National Pest.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/607 "2015-10-17T00:05:59Z")

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I don’t know which is more bizarre: the Postmedia endorsement of “sure, he’s attacked the pillars of our democracy like Elections Canada and the Justice system but he’s the only one who’ll stop the terrorists” or the Globe&Mail "vote for Harper and hopefully he’ll resign afterwards ".

Ok just kidding. The G&M one is way worse but they’re both pretty stupid. Almost like the endorsements were sabotaged by the staff.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/608 "2015-10-17T22:18:49Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> I doubt it would be at a golf course in this nation. All the more so because he probably hates living under [**Liberal Party advertising**](http://www.thestar.com/news/federal-election/2015/10/16/canadian-flag-too-liberal-for-manitoba-polling-station.html).

Boy. Talk about paranoia.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/609 "2015-10-17T22:23:17Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> The Conservative Party’s past goes back only to the point where the PC Party was killed, at which point zombies began their lurch across the land.

1. The PC’s had two members, And we’re soon to become a part of the Conservative Reform Alliance Party (CRAP) zombie apocalypse.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/610 "2015-10-18T20:58:38Z")

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And now there’s this.

> **[Former PMO lawyer says Tories have 'lost the moral authority to govern'](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/harper-has-lost-the-moral-authority-to-govern-says-former-pmo-lawyer/article26864767/?cmpid=rss1&click=sf_globe)**
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> Benjamin Perrin says in a statement that based on what he’s personally seen and experienced, he felt there was no other choice but to abandon his lifelong Conservative vote

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/611 "2015-10-18T21:09:45Z")

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Bad link, Biffster.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/612 "2015-10-18T21:57:31Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> And now there’s this.
> 
> [Former PMO lawyer says Tories have 'lost the moral authority to govern' - The Globe and Mail](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/harper-has-lost-the-moral-authority-to-govern-says-former-pmo-lawyer/article26864767/?cmpid=rss1&click=sf_globe)

A former employee who no one has ever heard of changes parties. Hardly earth shattering.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/613 "2015-10-18T22:26:21Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> Bad link, Biffster.

Why bad, children?

[http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/18/935a6d49c118dde90c8300073d355bdd.jpg](http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/18/935a6d49c118dde90c8300073d355bdd.jpg)

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**Author:** ![wolfstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d6d6ee/32.png) [@wolfstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfstu)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/614 "2015-10-18T23:29:32Z")

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So after those torturous un-dorsements of the Conservative party, a number of papers in the same chains replaced their front pages will full-page political ads reading “Voting Liberal will cost you”.

> **[Postmedia, Sun Front Pages Replaced With Full-Page Tory Ads](https://www.huffpost.com/archive/ca/entry/postmedia-sun-front-pages-replaced-with-full-page-political-ads_n_8326634)**
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> "Voting Liberal will cost you."

We’ve seen it claimed in this thread that the media in Canada are all slanted to the left, but watching this display, hopefully some people will give up that self-serving fantasy.

Seriously, what is this? Full front page replaced with scary ads warning readers not to support the opposition? If anyone ever tells me state-funded media like the CBC are inadequately impartial, this week’s “they’re terrible but vote for them”, added to “we’ll sell everything but the masthead to the party in power” will be my standard counterexample.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/615 "2015-10-18T23:40:36Z")

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The sun will still rise on Tuesday morning and nothing will have changed: well, in the short term. In the long term the implications will become apparent.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/616 "2015-10-18T23:44:14Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> Why bad, children?
> 
> [http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/18/935a6d49c118dde90c8300073d355bdd.jpg](http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/18/935a6d49c118dde90c8300073d355bdd.jpg)

Your other link worked for me but all these tapatalk jpegs force a download that never work. Just sayin

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/617 "2015-10-19T00:03:03Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> Bad link, Biffster.
> 
> > [@Biffster](#):
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> > Why bad, children?
> > 
> > [http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/18/935a6d49c118dde90c8300073d355bdd.jpg](http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/18/935a6d49c118dde90c8300073d355bdd.jpg)

Firefox on my desktop said there was a a script that wouldn’t load. Safari said the page didn’t exist. iCab Mobile on the iPad rejected it, too.

The Globe must have fixed the thing.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/618 "2015-10-19T02:30:16Z")

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[YELLOW JOURNALISM](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/619 "2015-10-19T05:53:27Z")

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> [@wolfstu](#):
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> So after those torturous un-dorsements of the Conservative party, a number of papers in the same chains replaced their front pages will full-page political ads reading “Voting Liberal will cost you”.
> 
> [Postmedia, Sun Front Pages Replaced With Full-Page Political Ads | HuffPost Politics](http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/8326634)
> 
> We’ve seen it claimed in this thread that the media in Canada are all slanted to the left, but watching this display, hopefully some people will give up that self-serving fantasy.
> 
> Seriously, what is this? Full front page replaced with scary ads warning readers not to support the opposition? If anyone ever tells me state-funded media like the CBC are inadequately impartial, this week’s “they’re terrible but vote for them”, added to “we’ll sell everything but the masthead to the party in power” will be my standard counterexample.

Sign of the desperate times for Harper and the Con-men. Unfortunately for them, not that many people actually read the physical newspaper anymore.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/620 "2015-10-19T09:04:46Z")

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> [@wolfstu](#):
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> So after those torturous un-dorsements of the Conservative party, a number of papers in the same chains replaced their front pages will full-page political ads reading “Voting Liberal will cost you”.
> 
> [Postmedia, Sun Front Pages Replaced With Full-Page Political Ads | HuffPost Politics](http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/8326634)
> 
> We’ve seen it claimed in this thread that the media in Canada are all slanted to the left, but watching this display, hopefully some people will give up that self-serving fantasy.
> 
> Seriously, what is this? Full front page replaced with scary ads warning readers not to support the opposition? If anyone ever tells me state-funded media like the CBC are inadequately impartial, this week’s “they’re terrible but vote for them”, added to “we’ll sell everything but the masthead to the party in power” will be my standard counterexample.

Nice banana-yellow adverts there.

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