# The "Look and Feel" of this place

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [August 25, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658 "2012-08-25T23:28:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/81 "2012-08-27T12:49:11Z")

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redacted. Changed my mind.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/82 "2012-08-27T13:30:06Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> We all get the mods we deserve.

Hey, we didn’t get Oakminster as a mod, so apparently we’re deserving of good things!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/83 "2012-08-27T14:03:28Z")

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It was, indeed, a bad analogy. And one thing that made it “bad” was that the poster was likened to a stranger entering someone else’s house. It wasn’t as if this was the first post the OP ever made on this MB, and although he’s only been registered here a few months, there isn’t any rule, formal or informal, about how long you have to be here before you get to consider this site your “house”.

The other part that made it a bad analogy was comparing the act of offering a suggestion about change to forcing a change on someone. No furniture was moved. No walls were painted.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/84 "2012-08-27T14:06:05Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Hey, we didn’t get Oakminster as a mod, so apparently we’re deserving of good things!

Actually, if that were true in **Oakminster’s** case, they would bring _me_ back as his personal mod. 😃

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/85 "2012-08-27T14:17:11Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Actually, if that were true in **Oakminster’s** case, they would bring _me_ back as his personal mod. 😃

Oooohhh…tough guy. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/86 "2012-08-27T14:21:43Z")

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Hey, you two! Take it somewhere else. Not here.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/87 "2012-08-27T14:27:30Z")

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> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> Hey, you two! Take it somewhere else. Not here.

Sorry-meant to be funny/joke, thus the smiley.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/88 "2012-08-27T14:33:48Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> It was, indeed, a bad analogy. And one thing that made it “bad” was that the poster was likened to a stranger entering someone else’s house. It wasn’t as if this was the first post the OP ever made on this MB, and although he’s only been registered here a few months, there isn’t any rule, formal or informal, about how long you have to be here before you get to consider this site your “house”.
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> The other part that made it a bad analogy was comparing the act of offering a suggestion about change to forcing a change on someone. No furniture was moved. No walls were painted.

And the idea that somehow Oakminster has any authority whatsoever to imply that it’s “his” house or that he has any ownership in the house.

To use an analogy (because…hey, it’s fun), it would be as though someone had been coming into Sam’s bar on CHEERS for a few weeks and commented to Sam that he’d prefer barstools with backs and Norm getting snotty saying how he doesn’t want “his” bar changed. And then making a lame analogy about houses that he doesn’t own.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/89 "2012-08-27T14:39:30Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> And the idea that somehow Oakminster has any authority whatsoever to imply that it’s “his” house or that he has any ownership in the house.

You can stop putting words in my mouth any old time now. I’ve explained my intent, which was nothing remotely like that.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/90 "2012-08-27T15:04:36Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Bullshit. It was not extreme, irrelevant, or hyperbolic.

When you responded to that poster, it was as if you had driven to his house in the middle of the night, set fire to his car, broke into house, went to his bedroom, pulled out a bullhorn and yelled at him “YOU ARE WRONG!” for 30 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/91 "2012-08-27T15:12:50Z")

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> [@RaftPeople](#):
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> When you responded to that poster, it was as if you had driven to his house in the middle of the night, set fire to his car, broke into house, went to his bedroom, pulled out a bullhorn and yelled at him “YOU ARE WRONG!” for 30 minutes.

I really don’t think so. It was more like I sat down at a table with him, bought him a beer, and quietly explained that he was wrong. Seriously–believe whatever the hell you want, but that’s how it was intended. I didn’t get mad until Dex jumped my shit for no damn reason.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/92 "2012-08-27T15:19:09Z")

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> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> Hey, you two! Take it somewhere else. Not here.

Get a chat room?

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/93 "2012-08-27T15:19:17Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Oooohhh…tough guy. :rolleyes:

Says the guy threatening new posters for daring to offer a suggestion about his precious precious wittle message board.

> [@Oakminster](#):
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> How would you like it if I came over to your home and started rearranging your furniture? You don’t know me, I’m just some random guy wandering by on the street. I noticed that you left the front door open, so I came in and put your fridge in the bathroom, your couch in the attic, and your bed out in the back yard. While I’m there, maybe I’ll paint your walls with hideous colors and hardwire your TV to pick up only Jesus channels. Because hey, I think it would be better that way.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/94 "2012-08-27T15:22:40Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I really don’t think so. It was more like I sat down at a table with him, bought him a beer, and quietly explained that he was wrong. Seriously–believe whatever the hell you want, but that’s how it was intended.

You realize my post was just as extreme and hyperbolic or non-extreme and non-hyperbolic as your post, right?

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> I didn’t get mad until Dex jumped my shit for no damn reason.

Why do you keep talking about Dex? We are talking about your post.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/95 "2012-08-27T15:23:41Z")

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repost in a sec

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/96 "2012-08-27T15:24:46Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Says the guy threatening new posters for daring to offer a suggestion about his precious precious wittle message board.

WTF? There was no threat made.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/97 "2012-08-27T15:28:03Z")

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Oak, you’re way out in left field on this thread.

1. Your first post was snotty. “How would you like it if I came over to your home” and “I’m just some random guy wandering by on the street” present the analogy that **Lazlo Hapsburg** does not belong here. That _is_ hostile. Granted, not in a “I’m gonna beat your face in” kinda way, but it was hostile in a “You don’t belong here, your opinion is unwanted, and your presense is trying” kinda way.

2. Your anaolgy was faulty. Nobody changed anything, nobody rearranged the furniture or painted the walls. A more accurate analogy would be if you were in college and sharing an apartment with an assortment of roommates. You’re a senior, and the freshman who moved in last semester comes in and says, “Hey, the neighbors redecorated, and I think we should do some of the things they did. Here are pictures.”

3. Dex did not reply as a moderator, he did not put moderating tags, he did not give you a warning or even a mod note, so your continued reference to not breaking any rules is irrelevant. What he did was post a note as a member disagreeing with your analogy and with your tone. Your continued harping on him for being a moderator and your insistence that you were not breaking any rules looks like you are dragging baggage into the exchange. Any member can tell another “That’s not very nice!” In fact, several other posters (myself included) feel the same way about your original response. Of course, there’s no rule requiring you to be nice, but there’s also no rule preventing you from being nice.

4. It’s odd that you read your comment as not hostile but Dex’s as hostile. That’s a screwy perspective. Dex’s remark was more along the lines of “who pissed in your cheerios?” than “shut up and go away”. On the hostility meter, I’d give your comment a 5 and Dex’s a 3 (out of 10 max).

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/98 "2012-08-27T15:32:31Z")

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> [@RaftPeople](#):
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> You realize my post was just as extreme and hyperbolic or non-extreme and non-hyperbolic as your post, right?

Uh…no. Your post involved arson, and yelling. Mine was peaceful, with no yelling. Just simple changing stuff around, like changing message board settings. A fridge in the bathroom, different colors on this board. No drama. No huhu.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/99 "2012-08-27T15:40:59Z")

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Dig _up_, Oakie.

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**Author:** ![Molotok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Molotok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molotok)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-look-and-feel-of-this-place/632658/100 "2012-08-27T15:50:25Z")

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Yeah, **RaftPeople** : peaceful snottiness abounds!

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