# The Lost Mafia Forbidden Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 11, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486 "2009-06-11T20:37:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/181 "2009-07-22T17:21:18Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > I only know him from the last haggle game, where he played a bit like this. He seems excitable, but in haggle it seemed like a strategy…here not so much. Yes. Haggle != Mafia But, Yes Naf, I have always stated, that getting the in the thick of Haggle is best. Also doesn’t hurt when you beat a simulpost on doubling quarters with someone one quarter away. Would I be correct in assuming that Mafia is more like one of those metal wood and rope puzzles? Get the ring off the puzzle type of thing, that most people place on the mantle and pick it up for 5 minutes a day, and if they make some progress, it is a success for the day? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/182 "2009-07-22T17:42:39Z")
> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > Where did Meeko claim to be blocked? I missed that. So did I. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/183 "2009-07-22T17:51:53Z")
> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > Not necessarily. My girlfriend is officially diagnosed ADHD, and the woman who diagnosed her was shocked that she ever made it through college with how bad her ADHD was. There are 6 types of ADD. Some are more expressive than others. [I mean, in the actual, social aspect, not in terms of symptoms] I got my BBA in December of 2007. Marketing (That seems to be asked of here.) And well, I think we all know what the US economy has done since then. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/184 "2009-07-22T17:59:56Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Also, while message boards don’t have time restraints, Mafia does, even if they are fairly long. And I doubt Meeko stays on the board 24/7 or writes his posts offline. So he probably feels like he has to post whatever he’s thinking before he leaves, or he’ll forget, just like he would if he were talking. It’s offical.\*\* I love this man. \*\* (In a completely straight, brotherly love, type of way.) Yes. Believe it or not, I do spend time away from the board, and I remain amazed when I find out that I put over 10% of my post activity into this game. I honestly had no Idea that I was posting THAT much. What I think most people fail to understand [But BigT understands, thankfully] is that I am not ““going out of my way”” here to be a dick. I am what I am, for better for worse. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/185 "2009-07-22T18:07:39Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Now, about the game: Isn’t it anti-town to gripe about Meeko in-game? Unless you tell him directly to stop something in a way he can understand, he’s not going to change. And, thus, all you are doing is adding noise. Perhaps I should just collect all of Big T’s thoughts and respond to them all at once. For the most part, I agree with Big. It’s not that I don’t “get it” it’s just that most times. **I am more literal, and need things to be BLUNT. If you want to say something to me, say it… not something else.** And, I can’t speak for the word “spaz” directly, or even for it’s use out of game. But, yeah, its… I kinda felt Zeriel was abusing me. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/186 "2009-07-22T18:15:22Z")
I made it through all the posts here. So, my traffic will die down now. But, again, you guys were asking a lot of questions, hopefully you can forgive the catching up here. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/187 "2009-07-22T20:30:11Z")
Meeko, dude, I’d like to introduce you to my friend the multi-quote button. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/188 "2009-07-22T21:09:32Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > Meeko, dude, I’d like to introduce you to my friend the multi-quote button. I was halfway into it, before I realized it, Digger. Also, I worked the thread from both ends. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/189 "2009-07-22T22:13:22Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > It’s offical.\*\* I love this man. \*\* (In a completely straight, brotherly love, type of way.) I thought you’d appreciate my comments, dude. Thing is, I used to be just like you when I was younger. I was diagnosed with ADD (the H wasn’t built-in at the time). They were either wrong, or it mostly went away as I got older. So, anyways, I always feel the need to speak out if I see someone disparaging someone with any psychological problem. Not to tell them they are wrong, but to help them understand where the other person is coming from. (I’ve done a lot of study on the subject.) It’s my little way of fighting ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/190 "2009-07-23T00:53:18Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > I’ll Pass thanks. While I am in school elsewhere, you can go learn how to be Cop. > > I’m not saying anything you don’t already know. Then shut the fuck up about my play style from previous games. Either we sort this out face-to-face, as much as a term like that makes sense over the 'net, or you drop it entirely. Be a man, and stop bitching about how I was a terrible Sinner-bulletproof, Cop and all the rest, especially in a thread I was unable to post in. There’s your choice - erase it from your mind, or we deal with it here and now. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/191 "2009-07-23T14:56:50Z")
\*\*Did it ever occur to you, even for a second, that I was stating I was leaving part of my role out, to AVOID the confrontation here? \*\* I stated that I was leaving part of my claim out. Take that as a compliment that I emulated your play, if you can. Do not take it as some insult that I am still harping on your play. Sure enough, if I did not reference it, we would still have this conversation now. … Looks like we still are. MULTPILE people commented that it was a great play on my part. I did what I had to do, when I did it, and I thought I bent over backwards to accomodate you as well. What could I have done differently? NOTHING. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/192 "2009-07-23T14:57:56Z")
> [@Lost Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/2068): > > (by the way, this thread feels really weird with so few people left. I keep thinking, “Where is everybody?”, then remembering that this _is_ everybody) I’ll take that as a compliment, Chronos. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/193 "2009-07-23T15:03:28Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I thought you’d appreciate my comments, dude. Thing is, I used to be just like you when I was younger. I was diagnosed with ADD (the H wasn’t built-in at the time). They were either wrong, or it mostly went away as I got older. I was going to ask, but I think a part of me already knew that you were. Yeah, I used to be worse. I just think that MAFIA, the way it is built, knows exactly how to get to the parts of my ADHD I still have left. For a change of pace, and hopefuly topic : [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CofgRmnvVCg/hqdefault.jpg "Electronicwaffle on A D D") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CofgRmnvVCg) This is a Youtube video I made, on the topic of ADD. And yes, All of the examples I cite, actually did occur. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/194 "2009-07-24T04:58:50Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > \*\*Did it ever occur to you, even for a second, that I was stating I was leaving part of my role out, to AVOID the confrontation here? \*\* > > I stated that I was leaving part of my claim out. Take that as a compliment that I emulated your play, if you can. Do not take it as some insult that I am still harping on your play. Sure enough, if I did not reference it, we would still have this conversation now. … Looks like we still are. > > MULTPILE people commented that it was a great play on my part. I did what I had to do, when I did it, and I thought I bent over backwards to accomodate you as well. > > What could I have done differently? > > NOTHING. 1. I have no complaints with your strategy. I never even vaguely insinuated that I did. Sometimes when claiming it is better to leave things out. I get that. Well done. 2. Had you not referenced my play, we would not be having this conversation. I would have assumed that you had moved on. Not every role claim, partial role claim or related move is going to remind me of the Glyph. 3. I’m happy to let the whole thing drop. The past is the past. But the next time you even imply my strategy in the Glyph was retarded for equally retarded reasons, well, I will energetically correct you. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/195 "2009-07-24T05:04:10Z")
> [@AllWalker](#): > > 1. I have no complaints with your strategy. I never even vaguely insinuated that I did. Sometimes when claiming it is better to leave things out. I get that. Well done. > > 2. Had you not referenced my play, we would not be having this conversation. I would have assumed that you had moved on. Not every role claim, partial role claim or related move is going to remind me of the Glyph. > > 3. I’m happy to let the whole thing drop. The past is the past. But the next time you even imply my strategy in the Glyph was retarded for equally retarded reasons, well, I will energetically correct you. I will take 1 for the compliment it is, even if it isn’t This was only my second game. By default, I am going to compare it to Crimson. And yes, we can let it drop completely, It would not be worth it, to either of us, to continue talking on mistakes in Mafia on a one on one basis. I am not opposed to the idea, just, I think we have had enough of each other. [A bit frank, but it is how I see it.] ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/196 "2009-07-28T16:54:05Z")
Couple thoughts about the current situation (post-cardinal lynch): 1 - Would a lie-detector-proof Godfather, a roleblocker, and a vanilla scum be considered a balanced 3-person team? It’s the only alternate scenario I can see to Jimmy and Diver both being scum. 2 - If it IS a Jimmy-Diver scum scenario, I wonder why Jimmy didn’t claim just to have no idea what Diver was after the tie-breaker. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/197 "2009-07-28T17:01:28Z")
I’d also say the best bet for Jimmy if he IS scum is to leave Chronos alive and off one of the other two, then hope to convince the remaining survivor that Chronos must be an uber-Godfather. (The other possibility is that the smoke monster lied to Jimmy, or forced Jimmy to lie, but that seems too gastardly to be true). ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/198 "2009-07-28T17:10:09Z")
> [@Lost Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/499337/669): > > But yes, good point. The intersection of my two lists include: > **Zeriel > Jimmy Chitwood > ShadowFacts > storyteller** (post 669 in the main thread) If Jimmy IS scum, this list is awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Polyperchon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/50afbb/32.png) [@Polyperchon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polyperchon)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/199 "2009-07-29T12:49:56Z")
This has been a fun game to watch so far, but I do wish that endgame hadn’t come down to Chronos’ program like that. cardinal\_fang didn’t seem like the scummiest by a long shot and I think if people had been more willing to go with their mafia skills over the probabilities, they might have caught that last scum going into toNight. Ah well, eagerly looking forward to seeing who is still alive at daybreak. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/200 "2009-07-29T14:36:53Z")
> [@Polyperchon](#): > > I think if people had been more willing to go with their mafia skills over the probabilities, they might have caught that last scum going into toNight. I believe I was trying to do that. I am unpredictable, and not always by choice. **However, people see me as a loose cannon. I see them as putting all their eggs in one basket.** The track record of the Chronos program is clear. I think we know who has egg on their face now. And not surprisingly, people still hate me for it. :eek: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486.md?page=11)