# The Lost Mafia Forbidden Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 11, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486 "2009-06-11T20:37:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/161 "2009-07-21T19:01:00Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > No, I have a clear way to break the tie and it takes a little time. I’ve been waiting for a tie the whole game. 🙂 I’m not sure what you’re mechanism is but I like the way you’ve handled it. It doesn’t seem to hurt the town too much for a tie but there is still a significant penalty that the scum don’t suffer. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/162 "2009-07-21T19:46:49Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > The Town knew that a tie could end in any number of ways, the vast majority of them unpleasant for the Town. Mahaloth made this clear from the start. The Town’s number one priority should have been avoiding a tie at all costs. They deserve the confusion they will now have to manage for allowing this tie. Exactly. I was intentionally mysterious about this in the beginning of the game and this makes quite a lot of sense I think. I actually figured me being non-specific and mysterious would deter the ties. > [@Oredigger77](#): > > I’m not sure what you’re mechanism is but I like the way you’ve handled it. It doesn’t seem to hurt the town too much for a tie but there is still a significant penalty that the scum don’t suffer. Thanks, it was something I had given up on happening. This game has contained more ties near the end of they day than usual and they always were wise enough to break them up. Oh, well. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/163 "2009-07-21T19:49:34Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > The not revealing alignment is a good way to discourage ties…but..um..it’s only a deterrent if people know it’s there. I think that most players in Mafia games are already detered from ties. In this game alone, they have been very wise to avoid them. I was intentionally mysterious in early posts to the game to try to give them an idea that ties would be odd. Several players even commented about my mysterious statements, so I figured they were being wise to avoid ties. They were deterred and persisted, which I was a bit surprised. I expected Meeko to jump in and break it up, actually, despite his insistence that he would not. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/164 "2009-07-21T20:41:48Z")
Quoth Jimmy in the main thread: > [@](#): > > Yes, that’s true. And I voted for him to force a tie and risk both of us, so that we could go to a smoke monster scenario, which I expected to happen, so that I could come back and report that he was town when he was really scum. (Sorry, bad BBcode skills) This is convincing to me. I don’t know for sure about Jimmy, but it’s hard to see a scenario where both of them were scum. (At the very least, Chronos gave both of them cover to vote for cardinal fang). Thus, USCDiver was town. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/165 "2009-07-21T21:01:55Z")
Well, thank Og that’s over. I was not enjoying those last few days and actually hoping I’d end up dead. I guess I can’t really reveal my alignment here either until the end. I can haz link to spoiler board, plz? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/166 "2009-07-22T15:43:13Z")
I’ll be profoundly shocked if the scum night-kill Meeko, btw. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/167 "2009-07-22T16:10:03Z")
Well, Here I am. Nothing personal Tom, but, your came up time and again in my dice rolls, I even gave you benefit of the doubt, twice. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/168 "2009-07-22T16:14:59Z")
Profoundly shocked. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/169 "2009-07-22T16:16:13Z")
> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > Meeko, for when you die or the game ends and you come over here and read this, the term you keep misusing is not Occam’s Razor, it’s Magic Bag. You also keep misusing WIFOM. IIRC, it came down to trusting 4 pieces of information, over 1. Occams Razor: Given two situations, the one with the least assumtions will most often prove true. X is scum. X is town. X knows that Y is scum Y says that Z is town. Therefore, Z doesn’t know that X is Town. Or some similar. A chain of ““facts”” were given, and could be trust, at the risk of ignoring that he could have been scum. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/170 "2009-07-22T16:18:24Z")
> [@AllWalker](#): > > _Sigh_. His attitude worries me. His attitude shouldn’t surprise me. But it does. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/171 "2009-07-22T16:34:57Z")
> [@AllWalker](#): > > **NAF** , that is good advice. It was also my plan, up until people I had confirmed were starting to gain suspicion. > > All right, this is _really_ starting to piss me off. > > **Meeko** , since you are not going to let this drop, when you are out of this game we need to have a little chat. In which I will slowly, and carefully, why you are full of crap about the role claim thing in Glyph. I’ll Pass thanks. While I am in school elsewhere, you can go learn how to be Cop. I’m not saying anything you don’t already know. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/172 "2009-07-22T16:37:46Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > And who could have predicted that Meeko would continue to play his own game, apparently uninfluenced by anything going on around him? I’ll bite. Elaborate please. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/173 "2009-07-22T16:40:54Z")
For the first few days, before I stopped paying attention, you seemed to be paying attention ONLY to who voted for you, or who said mean things about you, and not even contributing to any of the discussions about anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/174 "2009-07-22T17:01:21Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > For the first few days, before I stopped paying attention, you seemed to be paying attention ONLY to who voted for you, or who said mean things about you, and not even contributing to any of the discussions about anything else. I knew that I was town. Right? Scum want to lynch town. If I am town, people voting me have an increased chance of being scum.\* \*The increased chance probably is minimal, but still it is there. For starting off, I don’t think that, that is that bad a strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/175 "2009-07-22T17:04:15Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I’m just glad to see Meeko back in a game. I was worried with so many people saying bad things about him in The Crimson Glyph, he might get blacklisted. It doesn’t seem like you guys do that sort of thing. This means I might play with you guys if I ever feel I can handle a full-sized game. **You like me, you really like me!** But, I don’t know if you are still following, I am siting the next game out… I really think this is win win win for all involved. OOSOG [Speculation of Game] The job lead wants a Hand written resume from me. Have you guys ever heard of that? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/176 "2009-07-22T17:06:46Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > I think Meeko’s attempt to post less is not going to be very successful… The spirit was willing, the flesh unable. Or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/177 "2009-07-22T17:10:46Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko;11366111 The job lead wants a Hand written resume from me. Have you guys ever heard of that?[/QUOTE] That’s a little bizarre, but it would make sense if it’s for a job that requires that your hand-writing be legible to the people you’re working with. (And goes some distance towards making sure that it’s really your resume and not downloaded from somewhere or something, though that’s what the interview is for, really.) ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/178 "2009-07-22T17:10:49Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > First he’d have to realize he’s made a mistake. I don’t think he’s actually come to terms with the fact that some of his conclusions are flat wrong or at the very least his interpretation isn’t the only one. I would be _closer_ to conceding the second half of this, over the first. My interpretations are not shared by all, Would you want a game with 10 Meekos and 10 Peekers?. Yes, my Interpretations come from a different place. Doesn’t immediately make them wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/179 "2009-07-22T17:13:51Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Does anyone know meeko? How old is he? 1. And, I will admit to owning seasons 1-4 of Spongebob Squarepants. G4 Nick and Bloomberg [Believe it, or not] are my favorite TV channels. You might be confusing my Age with my ADD / ADHD diagnosis. And, I play to have fun. Fun for me does include a certain amount of unpredictability. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486/180 "2009-07-22T17:16:09Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > :smack: > > Did Meeko seriously just accuse BillMC of being a sock? Here’s a thought, Meeko: maybe Bill only posts to the SDMB to play Mafia! I blame my ADD here as well :: That was this game!? Man. Then again, 15 minutes seems to take forever for me. Honestly. [Might get at my post count numbers.] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-lost-mafia-forbidden-thread/499486.md?page=10)