The “waiter” part of this is now ironic, given that very often these days the waiters are the most sharply dressed people in a typical restaurant.
I missed that somehow. All I get out of seeing somebody dressed up is a sense of sadness that they would probably be more comfortable in casual clothes.
And a true leader leads. A leader doesn’t have to wear a leader uniform to prove he is the leader.
You statement disproves itself. Proves the statement I made above. A true leader simply leads. Put a buffoon in a suit and it try to call it a leader and you get the pointy haired guy in the Dilbert comic strip.
My guess is that your “team” follows you because you lead and not due to your spiffy appearance.
Your only point that I agree with. Clothes help you be want you want to be. If nice clothes give you a mental boost then go with it. In my case and the case of others we neither lead nor follow based on appearance.
I’m an owner of the company I work in. I am sitting at my desk now in my cargo shorts and T-shirt. I wrote the dress code that I will share with you in it’s entirety. My apologies if it is too verbose -
Don’t come to work stinky!
Everyone here strictly follows that code.
A man will look good in a suit if he goes and gets it Tailored properly to fit his body type. Also when you go to a place that does this, they will work with you to find the best color combinations and suit that fits you the best. I know this for a fact! Don’t buy suits off the shelf! You gotta get them tailored.
Also you do not have to wear a suit everyday to look good. I was thinking about this thread this morning and I came off the wrong way. In no way was I saying you have to wear a suit every single day to look nice. Today I am not wearing a suit. I am wearing a nice dress shirt and a pair of nice slacks with dress shoes. No tie btw.
There is another reason why men don’t wear jackets/suits in the office anymore-offices are well heated these days. Back in the old (pre-1950’s days), offices were poorly heated-you needed to wear a jacket to keep warm.
In places that still lack central heating, you still see guys wearing jackets.
As a woman, I just want to interject to say, while I love a suit-wearin’ man, provided he looks good in it and it’s fitted, I love blue jeans too. It’s all about how you rock it (and hygiene) of course.
So, we’re coming off a historic recession (which we still haven’t recovered from), families on two incomes are making comparatively less than single income households from the 70s, there’s still high unemployment, and people need to spend more money to get (1) “decent” clothes which have been (2) tailored?
If it wasn’t obvious before, it’s certainly obvious now that reality and this thread parted ways long ago.
You still haven’t addressed the point that most folks don’t need a suit to look good or to dress well for the events in their lives. Dressing in a nice suit is fine, but unless you want to look like a person in a suit it’s not appropriate.
Back at a previous job we had an engineer (a good one, too) who decided he was going to dress up for work to gain an edge and aim for a higher job. He looked like a fool wearing a suit in our office, and he definitely lost points on the respect scale because it was so transparent. He looked good; the suits were nice and well fitted. But the effect was so jarring as to destroy his credibility in the software development environment. He eventually dropped the idea and went back to jeans and his career continued its upward track.
Well said on that one.
How about you keep it simple.
Follow your companies dress code. Simple as that.
If you go to a five star restaurant, dress like you are at a five star restaurant.
Dress the Part. The end.
But it doesn’t hurt to have your own style, if its positive and you look good doing it.
Isn’t it also that back in the day, people bathed/showered less frequently and so they put on elaborate clothing and many layers (such as kummerbunds, waistcoats and cravats) as a means of suppressing bodily odour?
On a personal note, I used to love wearing a suit. I was a chef in the old days and suits were exciting and fun. I still own six (6!) tuxedos and 2 kilt outfits, one casual and one formal, plus a utilikilt. I can tie every tie knot known to man. Plus I have a formal Japanese outfit. I own about a dozen hats and two opera capes. Several 3-piece suits and two antique pocket watches.
Sadly, I am now in a wheelchair and have trouble with buttons and zippers, let alone a tie. So I wear sweatsuits 24/7 (except the shower).
Some of my friends dress like hobos, and some like federal judges.
Having lived both sides of the coin, I see everyone is different. Do what feels right but don’t look down on others.
this thread reminds me of an ad where an actor would imply that you’re not a real man if you’re not taking care of your skin - by using moisturiser.
I think it depends on location, industry and other factors. I work a block from Wall Street and there are plenty of people in suits. Lawyers always seem to wear suits. I always wear suits to client meetings, as do my peers.
Although more often than not, I see people wearing what I call “Deloitte casual friday”. Black dress pants and a blue or white dress shirt from Brooks Brothers or Thomas Pink or wherever. Which is still pretty casual when compared to Wall Street of old.
Well said as well.
I don’t work for a company. And the word is company’s. A possessive, not a plural. I judge people by their use of language a million times more than I do their dress. You apparently don’t. Why is that? Language, unlike dress, is actually important.
Fine. I’ll never go to a five-star restaurant, which means I’m safe.
I’m dressing my Part. The end.
Five reasons why young men should dress sharp
Reason #1: Dressing sharp draws positive attention
From 5 Reasons To Dress Sharp | Style Tips For Young Men
MODERATOR NOTE…
GQELITE33. You can’t just quote a hugh block of text from another website. I deleted most and put in your source.
samclem, moderator
I wonder whether, back in 1812, GQELITE33’s great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather was saying: -
Only in to-day’s Society can one show up to Dinner, and have Some-one be surprised to see him dressed in Knee-Breeches and Stockings! Indeed, the only time one finds it normal to see Some-one in a Gold-embroidered Tail-Coat is at a Wedding! When did Dressing-Up become such a Chore? A Man should feel good about putting on a powdered Wig and looking quite the Dandy.
Fashion changes. The suit has been with us for a very long time, and (I hope) is now on its way out.
Also, not everyone thinks of a suit as “sharp”. Personally, I find that a suit makes a man look stiff, dull, unattractive, and a lot older than he really is.
What Does Dressing Sharp Mean?
Before we get to the reasons why young men should dress sharp, I believe that we should examine what “dressing sharp” means. Below are four definitions of the sharp-dressed young man.
- Dressing sharp means to wear clean clothes that fit
MODERATOR NOTE #2.
See my note in the previous post.
samclem, moderator
A stylish well fitted suit will never go out of style. The only thing that goes out of style with suits is the color patterns.
P.S. The double breasted suit is not in style right now btw.
I own my own business, a sole proprietorship. There are few perks to my situation, but one is that I can wear whatever the fuck I want. And I do.